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Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings
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Stephen Leake |
Subject: |
Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings |
Date: |
Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:15:15 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) |
Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:
>> From: "Drew Adams" <address@hidden>
>> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:43:03 -0700
>>
>> The philosophy is that the default Emacs should
>> work well enough for the new user not to be
>> bothered by customization for quite some time.
>>
>> It's not a question of bother. Setting preferences in most UI applications
>> is not something users do only exceptionally and only because they are
>> bothered. This is all the more true of Emacs customization. Customization is
>> a part of normal Emacs use even more than it is part of the use of other
>> apps. Emacs *is* customization, in oh so many ways. Do you want to
>> customize? Get Emacs. It doesn't matter what - you can customize anything
>> with Emacs.
>
> My point is that customization is a sufficiently advanced issue, so
> new users should get used to Emacs and read the docs for some time
> before they embark on the never-ending customize adventure.
> Meanwhile, they have the Options menu to start with.
In general, I agree that customization is an advanced issue. However,
I think key bindings are an exception.
Learning a new set of keybindings is a significant impediment to
adopting Emacs.
Other IDE's have several sets of keybindings that are easy to choose;
keybindings that mimic other popular IDEs are available. I don't have
much experience with those (I've used Emacs for a _long_ time :), so I
don't know how well that works in practice. But it does seem like
something similar could be done (perhaps has been done?) for Emacs. I
know there is some sort of "Windows 32" keybinding; as others have
pointed out, that's not well defined.
Perhaps some discussion of the sets of "popular" keybindings that have
been developed would be appropriate in the tutorial/top level Emacs
manual.
When I introduce someone to Emacs, I give them my keybindings as an
example, and offer to fix/change anything that bothers them. That
helps a lot in getting past the initial learning curve.
The menu also helps.
--
-- Stephe
- Re: AW: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, (continued)
- Re: AW: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Nat Goodspeed, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Drew Adams, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Stephen F. Heffner, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Drew Adams, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Nat Goodspeed, 2006/07/13
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Drew Adams, 2006/07/13
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Nat Goodspeed, 2006/07/13
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Stephen F. Heffner, 2006/07/13
- Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2006/07/11
- Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings,
Stephen Leake <=
- Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings, Eli Zaretskii, 2006/07/11
- Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings, Lennart Borgman, 2006/07/15
- RE: [h-e-w] new user keybindings, Stephen F. Heffner, 2006/07/15
- Re: [h-e-w] new user keybindings, Guy Gascoigne - Piggford, 2006/07/17
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Drew Adams, 2006/07/11
- Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Alessandro Vesely, 2006/07/11
- [h-e-w] Re: EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Mathias Dahl, 2006/07/11
- Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Eli Zaretskii, 2006/07/11
- RE: [h-e-w] EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Drew Adams, 2006/07/11
- [h-e-w] Re: AW: EmacsW32, gnuserv, pathes in .emacs, Brian Elmegaard, 2006/07/12