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Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32: Submit bug report about TRAMP?

From: Lennart Borgman (gmail)
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] EmacsW32: Submit bug report about TRAMP?
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:27:02 +0200
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Ingersoll, Nelson wrote:
   I picked up and installed Emacs 23.0 from the EmacsW32 site.  As it stands I 
cannot use this iteration of Emacs because TRAMP is buggy and doesn't leave 
when invited to.  Specifically TRAMP imposes its own file interpretation 
standards which cannot handle VMS file names and directories via FTP.  For 
probably +99% of all users this isn't an issue.  Most users don't have a clue 
what VMS is.  And obviously neither does TRAMP.  But this old gray-beard knows 
VMS.  And supports VMS as well as Tru64, HPUX, Linux (pick your flavor), 
Solaris, and Windows.

   I have tried both W32 Emacs 23 version Emacs-23-CvsP080325-EmacsW32-1.56.exe 
and Emacs-23-CvsU080419-EmacsW32-1.57.exe.

   I used to use ANGE-FTP.  When ANGE-FTP was consumed by TRAMP I could at least force TRAMP to get out of the way and 
stay out of the way by putting the command "(setq tramp-default-method "ftp")" into the 
.emacs/init.el file.  Alternatively I could eXecute the command "tramp-unload-tramp" within Emacs.  Alas, 
those techniques no longer work.  All that happens now is TRAMP complains, maddeningly, "tramp-dissect-file-name: 
Not a Tramp file name: ...".

   Not being able to perform functions previously performed handily by now 
deprecated code is, essentially, a regression.  ANGE-FTP has been consumed 
whole and deprecated by TRAMP; yet TRAMP can't perform as well as ANGE-FTP.  
ANGE-FTP could handle environment variables and could handle VMS file names.  
Plus it was much faster to get a file using ANGE-FTP than TRAMP.  But hey, at 
least TRAMP's a pretty harlot.

   So I need to file a bug report.  Where's the line?

Hi Nelson,

Please use the unpatched version to submit a bug report to Emacs developers. You can do this from the help menu in Emacs.

- Nelson
Do I sound bitter?  Annoyed?  I am.

Fine. I am not fond of the kind of positive thinking that puts all the burden on the individual. Supportive thinking is much better.

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