Re: Reverting but keeping undo

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 29.05.2013 20:33, Drew Adams wrote:
> > > And it is not a discusson on emacs-devel by Emacs developers.
> >
> > Again, are you an Emacs developer? You aren't. What do you care?
>
> That remark bespeaks an arrogant attitude toward Emacs users.

Again, you're missing the point. It's meaningless for you to complain 
that there was no discussion by Emacs developers. If any of the 
developers feel that it should be discussed, they can say that themselves.

> > So, a hypothetical new variable would revert the behavior to how it were
> > before, but setting a new variable isn't too different from advising
> > `revert-buffer', from a user's perspective.
>
> It's a lot different.  You should know that.

Not really, in this case. Undo list is a technical detail, and the 
advice facility is meant for technical users. That's just my opinion, 
though.

> No, I don't assume any of that.  I just think this should have been proposed
> for discussion on the dev list, so we might hear from people with different
> uses and more knowledge (than I have, at least).

Do you think they're too shy to speak up now?

> Well, FWIW, I happen to like it too, for my personal interactive use.
> And FWIW I have been using it for quite a while now.  Surprised?

Not at all. That's exactly my point. You like it, you don't know anyone 
how doesn't, yet you still think people are doing things wrong.

> I asked why.  Your answer was that this is an unimportant, uncontroversial
> change not worth remarking or discussing.  To you, discussion of this
> would be bikeshedding.  I am not so sure as you.

The discussion would have been important if anyone had some important 
practical points to bring up. Which, again, you haven't.