Re: Adding colour when font-lock in disabled

[Heime]

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On Friday, December 9th, 2022 at 7:09 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:


> > Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2022 01:46:18 +0000
> > From: Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com
> > Cc: Heime via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor 
> > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > 
> > > From what I understand, when font-lock-mode is enabled, it takes over the 
> > > face property but provides an alias property - font-lock-face. The 
> > > font-lock-face property bypasses font-lock to allow coloured text.
> > 
> > Really weird stuff because if you want to allow someone to specify face 
> > property, just allow them to specify it.
> 
> 
> What is weird about it? font-lock-mode places face properties
> according to the mode's definitions, so it will overwrite any face
> properties you put manually. Thus the need to use a different
> property, which font-lock-mode doesn't control.

But them when a user wants to introduce some text with some properties (e.g. 
colour), what is supposed to do.  

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Would you expect someone to use font-lock-face when font-lock is enabled

(propertize "G" 'font-lock-face '(:foreground "green"))

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And use 

(propertize "G" 'face '(:foreground "green"))

when font lock is disabled.

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Why places face properties according to the mode's definitions but not allow us 
to change the properties of inserted text, when we can do that anyway?

After calling a particular mode definitions, I should be able te change 
properties rather than having a lock.