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Re: Determining whether gnunet is connected


From: madmurphy
Subject: Re: Determining whether gnunet is connected
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2022 05:02:09 +0000

Hi Fungilife,

What exactly are you having problems with? I maintain the AUR package, and I would like to fix it if there is a problem. What is the “crucial setup information” that is hidden? The AUR package should work out of the box by just launching `sudo systemctl start gnunet`.

--madmurphy

Il giorno giovedì 3 marzo 2022, Fungilife can be eternal <fungilife@protonmail.com> ha scritto:
>> Since GNUnet is currently an academic exercise, it should be removed
>> from main distribution repositories. For example: Anyone thinking to
>> try GNUnet on Debian-based machines would look in Synaptic and install
>> GNUnet v0.10.1. Presumably that build-version worked when it was first
>> included in the repositories, but now GNUnet is at v0.16.0 which is not
>> backward compatible.
>
> In Arch, where anything alpha-beta ends up in AUR within minutes, you can
> simply install gnunet git latest commit.  And this is where the handbook
> is wrong.  It is hiding crucial setup information under "installation".
> Someone who didn't go through the trouble of building the software manually
> and used the package-manager, has it already installed, they will not go
> back and read installation instructions.
>
> I am more in favor of rearranging and relabeling current documents,
> at least addressing this discrepancy, rather than whoever made the AUR pkg
> to remove it as misleading non-completely-functional software.
>
>> The low version number should warn users away, but GNUnet in the
>> repositories is misleading given its low level of development.
>
> This is what I have installed at this moment:
> % pacman -Qs gnunet
> local/gnunet-git 0.16.0.alpha.6.r101.g7dbabde5e-1
>     A framework for secure peer-to-peer networking
> local/gnurl 7.72.0-01
>     fork of libcurl, which is mostly for GNUnet
>
> while curl is up to 7.81.0
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tirifto tirifto@posteo.cz
>> To: help-gnunet@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: Determining whether gnunet is connected
>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 14:34:19 +0000
>>
>> On Tue, 01 Mar 2022 20:28:22 +0000
>> Fungilife can be eternal fungilife@protonmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > Where does it say on the front page, or on the packages thrown out in
>> > Arch's AUR and elsewhere, "alpha project not fully functional"??
>> > "we know ..."  ..."Nobody is claiming otherwise"  you may know,
>> > someone in authority of the gnunet site should also tell the world.
>>
>> For what it’s worth, it is very clearly mentioned in the ‘Install’ page
>> on the website, accessible either from the navigation bar’s
>> ‘Documentation’ menu, or by scrolling down the home page and clicking
>> ‘Get started’. I would assume that anyone stumbling upon the GNUnet
>> website and wondering how they can get started wouldn’t miss it, but I
>> may just as well be wrong. More prominent it could be, in any case.
>
> It is good to know, but see above on how someone would probably miss it,
> whether it is GNUnet 0.01 from debian unstable or 0.16 from Obarun stable.
> It is installed, bang, let's get to running it!  How?
>
>
>
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