Re: Guix Bluetooth Headset

[Yasuaki Kudo]

I totally agree - while diverging a little from my original bluetooth question, 
it seems that we need to have an "unofficial" "Guix-Compromised" downstream 
distribution.

The frustrating thing is that with the zero-tolerance attitude of Guix project 
(while well-meaning and I applaud such high standards), it is difficult to even 
discuss such things as tactical abandonment of libre-software purity in order 
dramatically improve the actual end-user experience.

We only effectively discuss delivering the best possible user-experience (while 
ignoring the ethical questions) when we can employ all possible means including 
using bad software form companies we dislike.

Having said that, I think the Guix' stance is actually very defendable and we 
would be barking up the wrong tree to complain to the Guix team.

This is why I think we need a proper downstream distribution of Guix with the 
goal of delivering the best Linux experience albeit with perhaps degraded 
software purity. 😅


-Yasu


> On Sep 26, 2020, at 21:03, Ekaitz Zarraga <ekaitz@elenq.tech> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm a full-time Guix user but I don't really think I have average 
> requirements for my computing.
> 
> I tried to connect to a bluetooth speaker once, there's a thread in the 
> mailing lists about it... I didn't manage to do it.
> 
> I tried through Gnome first, and it literally doesn't show any Bluetooth 
> device. I was able to use some bluetooth controllers like Bluez or so and I 
> managed to pair the device (and Gnome still didn't recognize the bluetooth 
> but did recognize the pairing, amazing stuff), but I didn't manage to make 
> the music sound through it.
> 
> I'd like to help more but this is what I got.
> 
> This is the kind of things that are discouraging. Guix is a good thing but 
> the user experience is sometimes plainly horrible, for stuff that should be 
> simple.
> 
>> I am curious how many people actually use Guix for the user-facing computers 
>> - do people use Ubuntu something and use Guix as a mere package manager or 
>> install Guix on a headless (virtual) computer and remotely use it?
> 
> I am curious too, because I only use Guix for the only computer I own, but 
> I'm not sure if it could be reasonable for anyone else, mostly because 
> sometimes Guix users are supposed to know too much about internal software 
> layers and there's no help about those times where you don't know enough.
> 
> This bluetooth case is very accurate case to explain this kind of situation. 
> Sound has a very weird software stack, if you combine it with bluetooth 
> everything gets complicated. If you don't know about it you are in trouble.
> 
> Sorry for the depressing thoughts, but this is how I feel.
> 
> I hope you find your way to make it work and share it.
> 
> Best,
> Ekaitz
> 
> 
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 4:16 PM, Yasuaki Kudo <yasu@yasuaki.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joshua,
>> 
>> My bluetooth USB device itself seems to be recognized by the kernel but 
>> there is this whole layers of software I don't understand - (when I used to 
>> use NixOS on the same hardware, it worked - I think it was a combination of 
>> something called PulseAudi and Bluetooth)
>> 
>> So I just want to know whether someone actually has a working configuration 
>> I can just copy.
>> 
>> I am curious how many people actually use Guix for the user-facing computers 
>> - do people use Ubuntu something and use Guix as a mere package manager or 
>> install Guix on a headless (virtual) computer and remotely use it?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Yasu
>> 
>>>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 21:53, Joshua Branson jbranso@dismail.de wrote:
>>> Have you tried looking at h-node.org?
>>> That will give you some hints at what hardware works well with
>>> GNU/Linux.
>>> I personally have a RIG headset with integrated microphone. It was a
>>> bit of an impulse buy. It doesn't use bluetooth. It has one chord. I
>>> can use it to record my voice, or listen to music. But I can't seem to
>>> do both at the same time with it. :(
>>> Thanks,
>>> Joshua
>>> --
>>> Joshua Branson
>>> Sent from Emacs and Gnus
>>> https://gnucode.me
> 
>