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Re: Help packaging R Quarto Cli


From: Wojtek Kosior
Subject: Re: Help packaging R Quarto Cli
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 22:17:38 +0200

I think I almost understand your approach. Just a quick question - what
Guix command are you using to try building? With this setup I'd try
something like

    guix shell -L ./export/ rust-deno

and then I'd put

    (define-module (rust-ecdsa-0.14 rust-ecdsa-0.14)
      #:use-module (rust-serdect-0.1 rust-serdect-0.1))

inside `./export/rust-ecdsa-0.14/rust-ecdsa-0.14.scm`. That's how guile
modules work - a module is identified by a list of symbols that match
module file's path (starting from a guile's modules root directory, in
this case the one passed via the `-L` option).

> If that works locally i suppose i could sent a patch with all the
> rust modules needed to build Deno ?

A patch would then expect the module(s) to be put under gnu/packages in
the Guix repo and then their `#:use-module` lines would need to be
modified accordingly... So you'd need to make these small adaptations
first.

Honestly, I haven't been submitting patches before and I don't know
exactly what module structure Guix devs expect. Perhaps someone else
may help you here.

Anyway, it seems right now you just have the result of running
`guix import` and you have not yet built any of those recipes? I don't
want to be pessimistic but here's a warning - there'll surely be some
fixes you'll have to make. Be prepared to dive into scheme :)

Best,
Wojtek

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 18:19:32 +0200
Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq <sebastien.rey-coyrehourcq@univ-rouen.fr> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Wojtek Kosior <koszko@koszko.org> writes:
> 
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I continue the packaging using guix import crate, this is a slow process, 
> >> but everything goes well at this time.
> >>
> >> My file deno.scm contain 6000 line, with all packages imported, this is a 
> >> problem because i need to remove duplicate.
> >> The best way was probably to export all `(define public method … )`  into 
> >> a folder with corresponding library.scm.  
> >
> > Do you have wour work-in-progress in some public repo? This would make
> > us easier to understand your setup and would also allow more ppl to
> > cooperate (although unfortunately Idk if there’s anyone else who’s
> > particularly interested in deno at this particular moment).
> >  
> 
> Here we are : <https://git.sr.ht/~reyman/build-deno-script>
> 
> This is a wip python script that build an `export/' directory containing all 
> rust module needed to compile deno (i suppose)
> 
> The deno script is localized at the root of `export/' folder
> 
> I build the modules folders, but know i don’t know how to compile all this 
> folders correctly using correct path …
> Any guile help appreciated to do that !
> 
> For example, the module *./export/rust-ecdsa-0.14/rust-ecdsa-0.14.scm* need a 
> module localized to *./export/rust-serdect-0.1/rust-serdect-0.1.scm*
> 
> I simply try *#:use-module (../rust-serdect-01)* in *rust-ecdsa-0.14* 
> define-module but this probably not the good way.
> 
> >> I need to create a module by package do you thing ? and after that import 
> >> all the package using `use-modules` ?  
> >
> > From what I’ve seen, Guix package definitions are usually grouped into
> > modules thematically. Although until you actually try upstreaming your
> > work, you’re not bound by any reqs and you can structure the
> > definitions in a way that’s comfortable for you.
> >
> > Also, are you adding your package by modifying the actual Guix sources?
> > Or by creating modules outsite of these? Perhaps this was already
> > metioned but I don’t have previous emails on the top…
> >  
> 
> If that works locally i suppose i could sent a patch with all the rust 
> modules needed to build Deno ?
> 
> Best !
> SR.
> 
> > Good luck :)
> > Wojtek
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> >
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Oct 2022 09:05:52 +0200
> > Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq <sebastien.rey-coyrehourcq@univ-rouen.fr> wrote:
> >  
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I continue the packaging using guix import crate, this is a slow process, 
> >> but everything goes well at this time.
> >>
> >> My file deno.scm contain 6000 line, with all packages imported, this is a 
> >> problem because i need to remove duplicate.
> >> The best way was probably to export all `(define public method … )`  into 
> >> a folder with corresponding library.scm.
> >>
> >> I need to create a module by package do you thing ? and after that import 
> >> all the package using `use-modules` ?
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Wojtek Kosior <koszko@koszko.org> writes:
> >>
> >>  
> >> >> > Out of curiosity - what are the problems between Guix and JS? When I
> >> >> > read this my first suspicion was that maybe TS is a self-hosted
> >> >> > language and cannot be bootstrapped. However, when I ran `guix search
> >> >> > typescript`, it revealed the existence of some TS->JS compiler called
> >> >> > ’rust-swc’. So I guess problems lie somewhere else, right?  
> >> >>
> >> >> Nothing per se.  Note that «TypeScript is a strongly typed programming
> >> >> language that builds on JavaScript» and from my understanding (maybe I
> >> >> am wrong?), it is hard to package Javascript for Guix because the
> >> >> Javascript ecosystem is messy.  Janneke provides some explanations [1]
> >> >> and I am not convinced the situation have changed since then.  Maybe I
> >> >> am wrong…
> >> >>
> >> >> 1: <https://yhetil.org/guix/87fudzndu7.fsf@gnu.org>  
> >> >
> >> > A few months ago (I think) I did run some code to actually check what
> >> > the dependency tree of the protocol buffers JS library (from npm) is.
> >> > The tree of runtime deps wasn’t horribly big. The tree of
> >> > recursively-computed dev deps was, on the other hand, as bad as
> >> > described by Janneke or even worse… However, It seems in most cases
> >> > many of those packages designated as dev deps are not strictly needed
> >> > for actually building stuff. Some are just test dependencies. Others
> >> > were perhaps put there because developers understood “dev dependencies”
> >> > differently from how packagers understand it…
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, it seems the only way to check what the situation really is is
> >> > to actually try packaging something. I’m confident it will be way
> >> > easier than it seems :)
> >> >
> >> > Luckily for Sébastien, it seems quarto-cli - although written mostly in
> >> > JS/TS - has no NPM deps. Or at least I don’t see any…
> >> >
> >> > Wojtek
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:08:59 +0200
> >> > zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >  
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 24 Oct 2022 at 20:40, Wojtek Kosior via <help-guix@gnu.org> 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>  
> >> >> > Out of curiosity - what are the problems between Guix and JS? When I
> >> >> > read this my first suspicion was that maybe TS is a self-hosted
> >> >> > language and cannot be bootstrapped. However, when I ran `guix search
> >> >> > typescript`, it revealed the existence of some TS->JS compiler called
> >> >> > ’rust-swc’. So I guess problems lie somewhere else, right?  
> >> >>
> >> >> Nothing per se.  Note that «TypeScript is a strongly typed programming
> >> >> language that builds on JavaScript» and from my understanding (maybe I
> >> >> am wrong?), it is hard to package Javascript for Guix because the
> >> >> Javascript ecosystem is messy.  Janneke provides some explanations [1]
> >> >> and I am not convinced the situation have changed since then.  Maybe I
> >> >> am wrong…
> >> >>
> >> >> 1: <https://yhetil.org/guix/87fudzndu7.fsf@gnu.org>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> simon
> >> >>  
> >> >
> >> >  
> >
> >  


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