RE: FW: confirm 853d67ba8b20e4ccbc0ed11a6fd9a45c69afd7d1

[Gregg C Levine]

Hello from Gregg C Levine
I agree. My ISP has its filters, via the Bright Mail company
configured to add the phony e-mail address to a database, and the
robot who manages it prepares a matching pattern algorithm that
eventually blocks just that address, not the domain name. I still see
everything from the FSF, and that's what I am doing.

 Now here's what I'd like you to do, my ISP needs to see the specific
bounce error messages so they can make the necessary adjustments to
their system. Can you send me off list the bounce responses for the
past three months?

As for the junk e-mail, all of them have suspicious headers, it’s a
curse that they all have. Over on the Bug-Grub list that, ah, manage,
with its owner, and two to three other fellows, we implemented a
series of steps that would send a reminder to the Bug-Grub-Owner
address regarding the junk e-mail, and ask what we'd want to do with
it. Unfortunately a lot of members had ISPs which used buggy MTAs,
(Mail Transport Agents), so  eventually we ended up closing the list.
When a user of the GRUB loader wanted to contact us, and he wasn't a
member, we'd need to allow it. Eventually that person would subscribe.
If you want to follow that route, but not close the lists, then I
volunteer for the job. This would work for all of the HURD lists.
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Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
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"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: help-hurd-bounces+hansolofalcon=att.net@gnu.org
[mailto:help-hurd-
> bounces+hansolofalcon=att.net@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Bas Wijnen
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: Bertrik Sikken
> Cc: help-hurd-owner@gnu.org; help-hurd@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: FW: confirm 853d67ba8b20e4ccbc0ed11a6fd9a45c69afd7d1
> 
> Hi,
> 
> As (l4-hurd) list owner, I've seen reasons for disabling to be
> "excessive or fatal bounces", in particular mail servers refusing to
> accept spam.  The mailing list doesn't seem to like it.  I think it
> would be better to drop the spam instead of refusing it, although I
know
> refusing is better for some reasons.
> 
> Anyway, I don't know how to configure the list to not disable the
> subscription if it happens, and I don't know if I would want to do
it if
> I did know.  Please adjust your spam filters to not refuse e-mail
from
> *@gnu.org (but drop it instead, or do whatever else you like to do
with it).
> 
> Thanks,
> Bas
> 
> Bertrik Sikken wrote:
> > And another one.
> >
> > Bertrik Sikken wrote:
> >
> >> I got this too, but I have in fact never actually sent something
> >> to the list.
> >>
> >> Bertrik
> >>
> >> Gregg C Levine wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> >>> Is everyone on this list, and the regular Bug-HURD list getting
those
> >>> messages? I keep seeing them now, about once or twice, typically
once
> >>> a month.
> >>>
> >>> I've tried writing the Owner of the list, to find out what error
> >>> message was supplied, but never got any response. It seems to
better
> >>> troubleshoot the problem my ISP needs that error message.
> >>>
> >>> On a different note, I have not seen any junk mail on this list,
in
> >>> quite a while, especially from a spammer who was trying to
promote a
> >>> non-existent activity for a largely disinterested audience. (All
of
> >>> you can guess what approach I took to complain to their ISP. I
think I
> >>> wore them out from my persistence.) -------------------
> >>> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> >>> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: help-hurd-bounces+hansolofalcon=att.net@gnu.org
> >>> [mailto:help-hurd-bounces+hansolofalcon=att.net@gnu.org] On
Behalf Of
> >>> help-hurd-request@gnu.org
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:04 PM
> >>> To: hansolofalcon@att.net
> >>> Subject: confirm 853d67ba8b20e4ccbc0ed11a6fd9a45c69afd7d1
> >>>
> >>> Your membership in the mailing list Help-hurd has been disabled
due to
> >>> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> >>> 23-Sep-2004.  You will not get any more messages from this list
until
> >>> you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more
reminders like
> >>> this before your membership in the list is deleted.
> >>>
> >>> To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this
message
> >>> (leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation
page at
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/confirm/help-hurd/853d67ba8b20e4ccbc0ed11
> >>> a6fd9a45c69afd7d1
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You can also visit your membership page at
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/help-hurd/hansolofalcon%40att.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On your membership page, you can change various delivery options
such
> >>> as your email address and whether you get digests or not.  As a
> >>> reminder, your membership password is
> >>>
> >>>     belsavis
> >>>
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> >>> at
> >>>
> >>>     help-hurd-owner@gnu.org
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