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Re: renames under CVS

From: Greg A. Woods
Subject: Re: renames under CVS
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:21:01 -0500 (EST)

[ On Friday, February 22, 2002 at 12:21:23 (-0800), Noel Yap wrote: ]
> Subject: Re: renames under CVS
> If it's not necessary, then it's at least very nice to
> have.

How nice????  I've been trying to get actual metrics about this for
years, and nobody but myself seems to care about making actual
measurements -- y'all just want to argue for the feature because you
seem to imagine that it would be "very nice to have"!

Every actual measurement of his procedure I've made in my own work, and
that of those I've directly observed, shows that it's a totally
unnecessary feature.

> > First off tell me how often you've actually had to
> > do this operation in
> > relation to other operations.
> Quite often when I was using a tool that allowed you
> to do it easily.  Hardly ever under CVS 'cos it's such
> a pain.

How often?!?!?!?!?!?  Facts and figures please, not conjecture and allusion!

> Also, your question is irrelevant.  I know many people
> who never look at the version history of a file;
> they're content with simply knowing the current state
> of the file.  Does this mean that a command like "cvs
> log" is unnecessary?

No, my question is extremely relevant.  CVS is not commercial feature-ware!

> So, the question is, should this be done by something
> > If you really think you know better how to do this
> > then demonstrate your
> > mastery with some working code!
> Hasn't someone done this already?

I've posted working wrappers.  That's the only working code I've seen
that comes close.  There may be something similar in one of the perl
wrappers that's floating around, but I wouldn't know for sure and nobody
seems to be speaking up about it.

> > I've never heard so much BS about this subject, even
> > after all these
> > years of discussion about it, and yet I think I'm
> > the only one to have
> > actually done something about it _and_ shared my
> > efforts!
> Is it part of the code base?  Why not?

Of course it's not.  It's too trivial to worry about!

                                                                Greg A. Woods

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