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Re: renames under CVS
From: |
Noel Yap |
Subject: |
Re: renames under CVS |
Date: |
Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:28:53 -0800 (PST) |
--- "Greg A. Woods" <address@hidden> wrote:
> [ On Friday, February 22, 2002 at 12:21:23 (-0800),
> Noel Yap wrote: ]
> > Subject: Re: renames under CVS
> >
> > If it's not necessary, then it's at least very
> nice to
> > have.
>
> How nice???? I've been trying to get actual metrics
> about this for
> years, and nobody but myself seems to care about
> making actual
> measurements -- y'all just want to argue for the
> feature because you
> seem to imagine that it would be "very nice to
> have"!
First of all, I said, "If it's not necessary". The
real question is "How necessary?", not "How nice?"
Second, I think you cannot gather metrics (something
objective) on such a subjective question. I can't
think of a way to ask objectively the question. Can
you?
Or, if you think that the question is already
objective, can you provide such a metric for it (eg
how do we go about measuring it?).
How about (as you've asked before): How often has one
used such a feature when such a feature were
available? Some of us have already answered this
question. I, for one, have said that I do it quite
often.
How about: How many of us complain that such a feature
doesn't exist in CVS? I think, as you've stated
before, that this is one of the most requested lacking
feature in CVS.
> Every actual measurement of his procedure I've made
> in my own work, and
> that of those I've directly observed, shows that
> it's a totally
> unnecessary feature.
Then, either your sampling of projects is extremely
skewed or your metric was biased. Can you provide how
you measured this?
> > Quite often when I was using a tool that allowed
> you
> > to do it easily. Hardly ever under CVS 'cos it's
> such
> > a pain.
>
> How often?!?!?!?!?!? Facts and figures please, not
> conjecture and allusion!
I can't say that I actually counted. My guestimate
would be about twice a month -- still way more than
when using CVS.
> > Also, your question is irrelevant. I know many
> people
> > who never look at the version history of a file;
> > they're content with simply knowing the current
> state
> > of the file. Does this mean that a command like
> "cvs
> > log" is unnecessary?
>
> No, my question is extremely relevant. CVS is not
> commercial feature-ware!
So what? Should we then remove "cvs log" since many
users I've seen don't use this feature?
Noel
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- Re: renaming under CVS, (continued)
- Re: renaming under CVS, Noel Yap, 2002/02/26
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Nagy Gabor, 2002/02/25
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Noel Yap, 2002/02/22
- Re: renames under CVS, Noel Yap, 2002/02/22
- Re: renames under CVS, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/22
- Re: renames under CVS, Paul Sander, 2002/02/22
- Re: renames under CVS, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/22
- Re: renames under CVS,
Noel Yap <=
- Re: renames under CVS, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/24
- Re: renames under CVS, Noel Yap, 2002/02/24
- Re: renames under CVS, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/26
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Steve Greenland, 2002/02/22
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/22
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Paul Sander, 2002/02/22
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Larry Jones, 2002/02/23
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Paul Sander, 2002/02/23
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Greg A. Woods, 2002/02/24
- Re: CVS Update Behaviour, Paul Sander, 2002/02/25