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RE: Subversion


From: Matt Doar
Subject: RE: Subversion
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:18:58 -0700

>  I read the user
> reviews at the bottom of Subversion homepage and they were not good
> overall.

You should read more widely than that. There are plenty of
CVS/Subversion comparisons available through Google.

>   So I'm very hesitant now, especially that you mention server
stability
> issues with Subversion.  Not to mention Subversion is only @ version
1. If
> I
> ever switch, I'd rather wait it out couple of versions.

It'll be a while. Subversion chose to stay in beta for years before
reaching 1.0. They don't seem to be driven by marketing tags.

> 
> Speaking of versions, when is CVS going to give us major features like
> Clearcase, Perforce, or Subversions: Directory versioning, renaming,
etc?
> 

Part of the history of Subversion was to create just these sort of
features in a new code base. Major changes to CVS such as directory
versioning would indeed surprise me, though pleasantly.

My personal take right now is that if a project is successfully using
CVS, then all of the people involved should be very clear about what
they don't get from CVS and very convincing about why they need to have
it. For a new code base, I'd probably try Subversion.

~Matt

> Thanks.
> 
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> Hi Steve -
> 
> We our in the course of producing a Subversion Replicator just like
our
> CVS Replicator. Talking with Subversion admins and users we do come
> across one issue regularly   - transaction deadlocks - with Berkeley
db
> backend.
> 
> Some admins routinely restart the Subversion server when they
encounter
> it. Most of the time that is enough to fix the issue. Seems to us that
> they need to work out the stability part more.
> 
> There is dependence of Berkeley db if you want any transactional
> support. File system backend will not provide you that. You can search
> for issues with Berkeley db. On SMP boxes issues with deadlocks and
> concurrency control have been around for a while. SVN with Bdb backend
> inherits all that.
> 
> Also these days most IDEs (Eclipse, WebSphere, Ideaj etc) have CVS
> support built-in. There are far more 3rd party tools and plug-ins for
> CVS just by it being there longer.
> 
> Regards,
> Rahul Bhargava
> CTO, WANdisco,
> http://www.wandisco.com/cvs
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