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Re: smtp outlook.com


From: xiewensheng
Subject: Re: smtp outlook.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 22:32:39 -0700 (PDT)
User-agent: G2/1.0

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 4:28:27 AM UTC+8, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> xiewensheng@gmail.com writes:
> 
> > Hi, I have similar problem.
> > Fetching imap email is ok, but sending smtp email is not.
> >
> > I am working under windows + Emacs/gnus + gnutls.
> >
> > Have you solved the problem?
> 
> Well, I’ve got a registration at outlook.com purposefully to test it
> with Gnus — and it just works with no problem.  I’ve used the following
> configuration:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it
>       message-send-mail-function send-mail-function
>       smtpmail-default-smtp-server "smtp-mail.outlook.com"
>       smtpmail-smtp-service 587
>       smtpmail-smtp-user "example@outlook.com")
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> and the following .authinfo:
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> machine smtp-mail.outlook.com login example@outlook.com password eXamp1e port 
> 587
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> Debian GNU/Linux Jessie, GnuTLS 3.3.8, GNU Emacs 25.1.50.
> 
> 
> However, it was enough to send two letters through this SMTP server to
> get enough experience to never deal with it again.  Look:
> 
> — It adds erroneous headers, for example ‘Content-Language: en-US’,
>   while my test message was not in English.
> 
> — It does not allow you to write anything to ‘From’ header even outside
>   of angle brackets, e. g. I am not allowed to write my name as ‘Дмитрий
>   Александров <example@outlook.com>’ — it would be silently rewritten
>   with ‘Dmitry Alexandrov <example@outlook.com>’.
> 
> — It rewrites ‘Message-ID’, which means that unambiguous link between you
>   letter and replies to it would be lost for your MUA (if only you do
>   not ‘Bcc’ all outcoming mail to yourself).
> 
> — It just throw out useful headers, in particular ‘Mail-Followup-To’
>   and ‘Mail-Copies-To’.
> 
> As a bonus, it adds lots of weird headers and re-encodes the body of
> message — both charset and transfer encoding: I’ve send a letter with
> ‘charset="utf-8"’ and received with ‘charset="iso-8859-1"’, I’ve send a
> letter in ‘8bit’ encoding and received it in ‘base64’.
> 
> Any of listed ‘features’ on its own should be enough to not to use that
> piece of Microsoft crap.  Thus, I would just advice you choose another
> SMTP server that does not break you mail.

Thank you.
I know it works under GNU/Linux just fine.


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