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Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups


From: Eric Abrahamsen
Subject: Re: Gnus Describe Group and Gnus Describe All Groups
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2020 10:16:13 -0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When viewing the list of subscribed groups in gnus, you can select
>>>>>>>>> from                                                  
>>>>>>>>> the group menu an option to describe the group (ctrl-c ctrl-d). For
>>>>>>>>> this                                                 
>>>>>>>>> group the description is "News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS
>>>>>>>>> (in                                                    
>>>>>>>>> English)." There is also an option to describe all groups (alt-d
>>>>>>>>> or                                                      
>>>>>>>>> M-d). I anticipated that this would put the description like
>>>>>>>>> above                                                       
>>>>>>>>> beside each group, but it just puts the group name. Is this a
>>>>>>>>> bug?                                                       
>>>>>>>> When I run `gnus-group-describe-all-groups' it pops up a completely
>>>>>>>> separate buffer containing all group descriptions, one per line.
>>>>>>>> `gnus-group-describe-group', on the other hand, just echoes the
>>>>>>>> description in the minibuffer. Neither of the commands actually change
>>>>>>>> how the *Group* buffer looks. Is that not what you're seeing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Which of the above servers hosts the groups that aren't producing
>>>>>> descriptions correctly? I only use news.gmane.io. If the server is
>>>>>> freely accessible I can try reproducing the behavior.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There are no descriptions from any servers that I have tried (using
>>>>> gnus-group-describe-all-groups). You could try news.aioe.org, that is
>>>>> freely available.
>>>>
>>>> So far it works fine for me for news.gmane.io and news.aioe.org:
>>>>
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:ak.test Messages with the beta-nature.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.biz Advertisements for Akron area businesses.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.freenet Discussion about the Akron Regional 
>>>> Free-Net.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.internet Internet access in the Akron, Ohio, 
>>>> area.
>>>> *: nntp+news.aioe.org:akr.jobs announcements and discussion of jobs in the 
>>>> Akron area.
>>>>
>>>> news.mozilla.org simply seems to not provide group descriptions at all.
>>>>
>>>> Remind me of the version of Emacs/Gnus you're using?
>>>
>>> 26.3. I compiled it from source.
>>
>> Okay, with Emacs 26 I am able to reproduce that behavior. I don't think
>> Emacs 26 is getting bugfixes at this point, though, so I'm not sure what
>> to tell you. Is upgrading your Emacs a possibility?
>
> OK I have upgraded to 27, and that has fixed the problem, although there
> is a non-existant group called 215 with the description 'Newsgroup
> descriptions in form "group description" '

Yup, I noticed the same thing. I think I actually introduced this error
with an earlier change, and will look into fixing it.

> Thanks for your help!

My pleasure.

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