Re: [Ring] Ring packages for Fedora (was: Are the Arch linux packages gone?)

[inderaue23]

He Maxim,

thanks for your reply and taking time!

Related to RPM fusion:
For me there seems to be the problem, that people already have to know about 
Ring.
There is no chance to stumble and discover it through the categories of the 
AppCenter while searching for Apps they really need.

Related to the patents:
1. Why does Ring have to use FFMPEG at all?
2. Could https://pipewire.org/#about be an alternative?

> Maxim Cournoyer <address@hidden> hat am 1. Februar 2018 um 20:53 geschrieben:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Maxim Cournoyer" <address@hidden>
> > To: address@hidden
> > Cc: address@hidden
> > Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 1:52:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ring] Are the Arch linux packages gone?
> 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: address@hidden
> >> To: address@hidden
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:28:45 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Ring] Are the Arch linux packages gone?
> > 
> >> see discussion here
> >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/ring/2017-11/msg00021.html
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> address@hidden hat am 31. Januar 2018 um 09:26 geschrieben:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>     By the way: Here is what Fedora guys told me about integrating Ring 
> >>> packages
> >>>     into Gnome Software repositories.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>         > > I'm interest in GNU Ring's communication solution. 
> >>> https://ring.cx/en
> >>> >         https://ring.cx/en/about/practical
> >>> > 
> >>> >     > 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>     "I see that FFMPEG is mentioned on Ring's website. FFMPEG isn't 
> >>> permissible in
> >>>     Fedora because the USA's patent system is crap, so it's packaged in 
> >>> RPM Fusion
> >>>     instead. Anyone who wants to package Ring will have to do it in RPM 
> >>> Fusion (or
> >>>     another add-on repository), unless Ring can function without FFMPEG.
> >>> 
> > >>     Björn Persson"
> 
> Thanks for the information. Indeed, Fedora's packaging guidelines prevent 
> adding patent encumbered software[0]. FFmpeg implements tens of various 
> codecs, some of which are patent encumbered. As FFmpeg is a required 
> dependency of Ring (it is used to process the video and audio streams), it 
> also wouldn't be allowed to enter the main Fedora repositories. It could be 
> added to the opt-in RPM Fusion repository, as noted by Björn above.
> 
> In the meantime, we provide our own repository for Fedora here: 
> https://ring.cx/en/download/gnu-linux.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Maxim
> 
> [0]  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Legal