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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Q: library dependencies

From: John Calcote
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Q: library dependencies
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 11:52:54 -0600

On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:38 AM Nick Bowler <> wrote:
On 2020-09-25, John Calcote <> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:45 AM Bob Friesenhahn <> wrote:
>> Exactly!  It might as well be a tar file except that the 'ar' archiver
>> knows how to add/update/remove files from it and that is not possible
>> with a tar file.  The ability to do incremental updates of the archive
>> file is important as objects are built/rebuilt.  The 'make' program
>> itself already understands archive files.
> I did not know this about libtool and convenience libraries. Do you have
> any historical notion of why this was done? I ask because this sort of
> behaviour total defeats the linker's ability to discard unused objects,
> does it not?

As I mentioned elsethread, at least with current versions, this only
appears to actually happen when convenience libraries are linked into
libraries (which OP is doing).  This _has_ to happen for the use case
that convenience libraries are described to be, well, convenient for:
linking a set of common object files into multiple shared libraries.

Thanks Nick - that clears up my confusion and makes perfect sense. Sorry I missed your earlier comments on it.


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