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Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 3944 in lilypond: Match PhrasingSlur thickness


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Subject: Re: [Lilypond-auto] Issue 3944 in lilypond: Match PhrasingSlur thickness to Slur and Tie.
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2014 03:34:02 +0000


Comment #5 on issue 3944 by address@hidden: Match PhrasingSlur thickness to Slur and Tie.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3944

William Gamble:
p.101: "The lozenge graver has a more obtuse V-shape in the blade than the tint graver. It is, in fact, in the form of a complete lozenge in section, the lower of the two acute angles being used for the cutting. Naturally, from its shape, it cuts a broader line than the tint graver, and the more deeply it is forced into the metal, the more broadly it cuts. It is used for engraving the slurs, for which the tool must enter lightly, penetrate more deeply for the middle part of the curve, and run out lightly."

p.102: "Flat gravers have parallel sides, cutting like a chisel, so that the line is of the same thickness as the tool, and the bottom of the cut is flat. These tools are used for cutting the ties of the connected quavers. Several sizes are required to suit the different sizes of notes, the ties being thickened in proportion to the size."

p.107: "Whilst the employer usually provides the punches, the engraver generally prefers to have a set of slur punches of his own, as they are not expensive, rather than have to be constantly getting them from other engravers who may be using them. There are about eleven sizes."

p.139: "The small slurs are punched, but the larger ones are cut with the lozenge graver, although punches can be obtained for some of them."

p.148: "The ties are cut with scorpers (flat gravers), which have a flat back. These vary in thickness according to the width to be cut, this naturally depending on the size of the notes. The tool is given a slight oscillatory movement by a turn of the wrist. This aids the tool in cutting and gives to the bottom of the cut a waviness which helps retain the printing ink."

p.149: "The large slurs are usually cut with the lozenge graver. Small slurs are, however, generally punched. It is necessary in cutting a slur with the graver to begin finely, pushing the blade first whilst it is held level, then inclining it little by little, so that the cheeks of the tool sink more and more deeply into the metal, thus forming the thick part of the stroke, and finally, levelling the blade again, so as to finish with the same fineness as at the beginning of the cut."
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Ted Ross:
p.136: "Though ties, slurs, and phrase marks are constructed in basically the same way, each performs a different function. [...] Plate engravers punch dies into metal plates to achieve ties and short slurs. [...] Longer ties are cut with a tool called the `graver'."

p.139: "The short slur is constructed in the same way as the tie, although its function is entirely different."

p.140: "A long slur is a straight line with both ends bending uniformly towards the enclosed notes." (nice examples on p.142)
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Kurt Stone:
[he never specifically discusses the design or thickness of slurs, ties, and phrase marks]
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Elaine Gould:
p.60: "The tie and slur (phrase mark) have the same design, although ties tend to have a flatter arc, to allow room for slurs and to differentiate the two."

p.109: "The slur is the same tapered arc as the tie, although the tie may have a flatter curve to allow room for slurs and to differentiate the two. When notes at the beginning and end of a slur are the same pitch, the slur may look identical to a tie because it will, like the tie,be completely symmetrical."

p.113: [section labeled "Slurs within slurs" does not mention any change in design, thickness, etc.]

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