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Re: Can no longer build.


From: Jonas Hahnfeld
Subject: Re: Can no longer build.
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2019 13:59:56 +0100
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Am Samstag, den 09.11.2019, 13:23 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup:
> Jonas Hahnfeld via Discussions on LilyPond development<address@hidden> writes:
> > Am Samstag, den 09.11.2019, 12:55 +0100 schrieb David Kastrup:
> > > Jonas Hahnfeld <address@hidden> writes:
> > > > AFAICS configure requires a guile executable between versions1.8.2 
> > > > to1.9.0 (see configure.ac, line 309), unless you 
> > > > pass--enable-guile2which is off by default.
> > > 
> > > That would seem a mistake.  LilyPond works perfectly well with 
> > > aGuile-2executable.  It's the Guile-1.8 development libraries thatare 
> > > neededfor compilation into the LilyPond binary, but the scriptsare fine 
> > > usinglater binaries of Guile.
> > 
> > That is $ git log -p -n1 e9ae1cb3b093498ccb9d5f7348c755a3243bbccc 
> > --configure.accommit e9ae1cb3b093498ccb9d5f7348c755a3243bbcccAuthor:Thomas 
> > Morley <address@hidden>Date: Sun Mar 19 14:29:04 2017+0100    Issue 5108 
> > Let configure find all needed files with guile-2.2 inconfigure.ac Adds 
> > support for STEPMAKE_GUILE Update guile-versions forSTEPMAKE_GUILE and 
> > STEPMAKE_GUILE_DEVEL in aclocal.m4 update the listto search for 
> > guile-config Many thanks to Antonio Ospitediff --git a/configure.ac 
> > b/configure.acindex d77ea15881..8f2f61abf8100644--- a/configure.ac+++ 
> > b/configure.ac@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@STEPMAKE_TEXMF(REQUIRED) 
> > STEPMAKE_TEXMF_DIRS(REQUIRED) if test"$GUILEv2" = "yes" then- 
> > STEPMAKE_GUILE_DEVEL(REQUIRED, 2.0.7, 2.2.0)+STEPMAKE_GUILE_DEVEL(REQUIRED, 
> > 2.0.7, 2.3.0) elseSTEPMAKE_GUILE_DEVEL(REQUIRED, 1.8.2, 1.9.0) fi@@ -267,7 
> > +267,12 @@STEPMAKE_FREETYPE2(freetype2, REQUIRED, 2.1.10) STEPMAKE_WINDOWS 
> > #guile executable for some scripts-STEPMAKE_GUILE(OPTIONAL, 1.8.2,1.9.0)+if 
> > test "$GUILEv2" = "yes"+then+ STEPMAKE_GUILE(OPTIONAL,2.0.7, 2.3.0)+else+ 
> > STEPMAKE_GUILE(OPTIONAL, 1.8.2, 1.9.0)+fi # perlfor help2man and for 
> > mf2pt1.pl STEPMAKE_PERL(REQUIRED)but before this commit, it would just 
> > always require Guile 1.8.2 to1.9.0. I've no experience with using guile-2.0 
> > or guile-2.2 for thescripts, but if you post a patch I can give it a try 
> > (Arch Linuxbundles all three versions).Just wondering if it's wise to use a 
> > different version of Guile forthe scripts than the libraries...
> 
> For a cross environment like GUB it seems like excessive work (andpossible 
> improvements in Scheme execution speed do not seemperformance-relevant).
> But for stuff intended to run as natively as possible, relying oncurrent and 
> maintained executables tends to be better from a maintenanceand security view.

So I think you're saying that using two versions of Guile for the same build is 
fine, right? I fully agree that a maintained version is better than one from 
2010.
Eventually, it would be great if LilyPond didn't rely on Guile 1.8 forever, but 
I have no clue as to how much work that would mean (and I'm not interested to 
spend time until we're done with the Python stuff).

Jonas

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