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Re: Backend EPS issue


From: Cameron Horsburgh
Subject: Re: Backend EPS issue
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:25:51 +1000
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11)

On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 07:14:36PM -0700, Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
> 
> To all,
> 
> This "bug" is apparently a problem on my Windows 2000 machine only.  I
> retried my experiment on a newer Windows XP computer and backend EPS works
> flawlessly.
> 
> Beautiful sharp output, that blows away the PNG's.  Still no wysiwyg in
> MSWord, but when I render my MSWord doc to PDF all the snippets show up, my
> pre-press will be PDF anyway, MSWord is just a word processor...  wysiwyg is
> not a big issue I know what all the rectangles mean anyway.
> 
> Please disregard my earlier post.
> 
This reminds me of an issue I currently have. I was always able
to print LilyPond scores from my work machine (Windows XP) until I
installed CutePDF and Ghostscript. Since then I seem to have had
similar issues with missing noteheads and so forth. Do you have these
installed on your XP machine?


> 
> 
> Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote:
> > 
> > V.2.9.22 fresh install after running uninstall of 2.9.21, on Win 2000... 
> > 
> > I've been encountering some issues using backend EPS output in my Word
> > processor documents and subsequent gs processing.  I am using the
> > following command options to create small musical fragments for inclusion
> > in other documents:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > lilypond -b eps -dno-gs-load-fonts -dinclude-eps-fonts myfile.ly 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Here are the issues, some have work-arounds others don’t: 
> > 
> > 1) When I include the lily produced EPS in my Word document, it just
> > appears as a blank rectangle (of proper size).  This is OK because when I
> > actually print the document, or "virtual print" it to a ghostscript
> > virtual PDF converter like CutePDF.  The EPS rectangle does print the
> > music (beautifully but partially) see next point.
> > 
> > 2) The EPS rectangle contains the music however many "parts" are simply
> > missing, for example note heads are missing, but stems are there, ties are
> > there, but accidentals are missing, grace note heads are missing, clef is
> > present, as well as time signature and the staff symbol itself is there,
> > etc.  I have not documented all the "pieces" that are missing, but
> > obviously something is awry in the font-embedding to cause random missing
> > characters, I assume.
> > 
> > 3) The third issues occurs when viewing the gs prduced PDF through Adobe
> > reader.  If I click on the area of the page where the EPS rectangle is,
> > Adobe says that it is attempting to "contact a web site" then gives a
> > normal file path to a path on the machine that created the original EPS. 
> > I'm assuming it's probably looking for the missing fonts?  When I click
> > that rectangle of music in Adobe Reader it launches a DOS window (maybe
> > gs, don’t know?), but the document does not change.  I would rather not
> > see any click behavior with a non-interactive PDF print document.
> > 
> > 4) Finally if I take one of the backend EPS files created by lily and just
> > use ghostscript to convert it to PDF, the same issues (2 and 3) above
> > still occur in Adobe Reader.  I think this kind of eliminates MSWord as
> > the culprit.  I use CutePDF to convert Windows applications print output
> > to PDF, CutePDF is just a freeware "virtual printer" shell wrapped around
> > gs, "impersonating" a printer, then puts up a SaveAs dialog to save the
> > PDF.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone have any ideas on how to solve these problems? 
> > 
> > I really like the output of using EPS over PNG for imbedding music into
> > other documents.  The quality of the EPS vs. the PNG is like day and
> > night, with the EPS being crystal clear, albeit missing note heads, and
> > making Adobe Reader act weird right now.
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Or can someone possibly
> > double-check the code that does the font embedding to EPS for a possible
> > bug related to at-least the accidentals and note heads?  Or maybe a
> > possible bug that is causing Adobe to think it needs to reference an
> > external URL in order to render?  I will be glad to be your test case for
> > any new code.
> > 
> > Are the fonts maybe hosed on my machine?  Is there any kind of clean up
> > and reinstall I should try first? 
> > 
> > Lily itself works fine otherwise. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Rick 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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