Re: Horizontal Lyric spacing in 2.11

[Nicolas Sceaux]

Le 1 nov. 07 à 15:47, Monk Panteleimon a écrit :

> And Reinhold Kainhofer (observantly) says:
> > I just tried one of my choir scores (ChoirStaff with two stanzas  
> > written
> > between the two staves for SA and TB) with the current git version.  
> > The
> > lyrics are tied to the S voice, but in 2.10.x, the lyrics were  
> > still centered
> > between the two staves. Now in 2.11, the lyrics seem to be glued to  
> > the SA
> > staff (when using ragged-bottom=##f and ragged-last-bottom=##f), so  
> > they are
> > quite far away from the TB, which make the scores absolutely  
> > unusable for
> > choir use.
>
> Amen, brother. That's what I'm stressin.
>
> > Here it seems like there is more space between the staves of a  
> > system than
> > between two systems.
>
> Yup. And since a ChoirStaff is for choirs, I repeat my question:
> Would anyone *want* this to be the case for *any* type of of multi- 
> voice
> vocal music? Even if you have polyphony instead of chorale, would you
> want a big white space while the basses wait for their entry?
>
> I know it's possible to fix it with a tweak. I'm pointing out my
> problems with it because I assume that making something funky and then
> explaining a recondite tweak to fix it is not the ideal order of
> things. Discussion of this kind of issue is what development  
> versions are for,
> correct? If I'm thinking poorly again, please let me know.

Let's be more factual. In the 19th century Peters edition of  
Mendelssohn's
Summernachtstraum that I possess, lyrics always stick to upper staff,  
even in
homorythmic choir staves. See <http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/tmp/choirstaff001.png 
>
for instance, where indeed lyrics are not placed in the middle of  
inter staff space.
So saying that the current behavior is "funky" is obviously not  
correct; actually
the current behavior seems to conform with 19th engraving practices  
AFAICS.

nicolas