Re: Space on the left end of each line

[till]

What about just blanking the bar lines? This will give unfortunately tiny
bits of additional space around the barlines (I have not yet figured out how
to remove them), but for rhythmically spaced music it might not be even
visible. Then your clefs should again appear, and you can just make them
also invisible, with a \once \override to make the first clef visible again.

Till


Don Blaheta wrote:
> 
> Quoth Mats Bengtsson:
>> Don Blaheta wrote:
>> > I'm setting a bunch of plainchant stuff in more or less modern
>> > notation, so it uses modern note heads and spacing rules and five
>> > lines, but still doesn't have a time signature or key signature and
>> > the clef is only printed on the first line. [...] I'd like to allow
>> > a fixed-width space at the beginning of the line before the notes
>> > start rendering.
>> 
>> You didn't tell how you removed the clef and key signatures.
>> If you use
>> \override Staff.KeySignature #'transparent = ##t
>> \override Staff.Clef #'transparent = ##t
>> then they will still take the same space as if they were printed.
>> However, based on your problem description, it seems that you have
>> rather removed the engravers or set ... #'stencil = ##f, which completely
>> removes the clef and time signatures.
> 
> In fact the issue is that I've removed the Bar engraver, since this is
> plainchant; without a bar engraver, the clef is never printed at the
> start of the line.  Come to think of it, I'd actually be happy if I just
> got the clef signs back.
> 
>> In the latter case, a direct answer to your question is
>> \override Score.LeftEdge #'space-alist #'first-note = #'(fixed-space .
>> 10.0)
> 
> This doesn't seem to do anything at all, whether at the start of the
> Score, start of the Staff, or anyplace else I can find where it's a
> syntactically valid statement.
> 
> Quoth Kieren MacMillan:
>> Have you thought about adding this value to the 'X-extent of the  
>> first note? e.g.,
>>      \once \override NoteColumn #'X-extent = #'(-20 . 1)
> 
> Even this doesn't seem to work; when I put it before any other note on
> the line, I get the expected space, but when it is on the first note of
> the line, nothing happens.  (Not quite true: if I put it on the first
> note of a line that has other stuff on it, e.g. a clef, then it works.
> So it looks like the X-extent of the leftmost note is allowed to hang
> off the edge of the staff somehow.)
> 
> I confess I'm a little relieved; I was not looking forward to adding all
> these manually!
> 
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