Re: Bar numbers position

[Janek Warchoł]

2013/11/2 Gilberto Agostinho <address@hidden>:
> Hello all,
>
> Today, while searching for scores at Mutopia, I came across this one
> produced in LilyPond 2.9.9:
>
> http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b-a4.pdf
> http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ftp/BachJS/BWV849/bwv849b/bwv849b.ly
>
> What intrigued me here is the position of the bar numbers. [....]
> So my question(s) is(are): why there was a change in the bar number position
> between these two LilyPond versions? And why the decision of having them to
> the left and not to the right of this vertical line? Does anyone know if
> there is any standards related to this?

I don't know what was the reason for the change, but...

2013/11/10 Gilberto Agostinho <address@hidden>:
> Now compare LilyPond's default output of bar numbers with these examples
> from "our own" Essay (
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/essay-big-page ):
>
> Bach's Cello Suite, Bärenreiter BA 320, ©1950:
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/pictures/baer-suite1-fullpage.png
>
> Bach's Cello Suite, Henle no. 666, ©2000:
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/pictures/henle-suite1-fullpage.png
>
> Bach’s Fugue in G minor from the Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I, BWV 861,
> Bärenreiter BA5070 (Neue Ausgabe Sämtlicher Werke, Serie V, Band 6.1, 1989):
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/pictures/bwv861-baer-small.png

...i believe the barnumbers in the engraved examples interfere with
clefs.  I've seen some scores where similarly placed barnumbers looked
like clef transposition (especially when the first bar in a system was
8th or 15th, and the number was placed right above the clef...).
I believe that LilyPond's placement has the advantage of being unambiguous.

best,
Janek