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From: | Simon Albrecht |
Subject: | Re: How do new users feel about LilyPond's documentation? |
Date: | Thu, 23 Apr 2015 00:06:25 +0200 |
User-agent: | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 |
Am 22.04.2015 um 23:19 schrieb Carl Sorensen:
I think this is an important point: the manual need to be used the way they should. Often, problems arise because people just start trying lily out (as they use to start working with a WYSIWYG tool, probably) and don’t first get acquainted with the fundamentals – laid out pretty well in the LM. Perhaps it boils down to this: Using a conventional typesetting software may be learned through trial and error, using lilypond can’t. You have to be willing to get a grip of it from the basic, and for me this involved to delve into a completely new way of thinking. The reason I did that (investing a maybe unreasonable amount of time over years) was because I like doing things properly unto perfection, and this is probably something I share with many Lilypond users. So everybody who likes a more casual, superficial, easy-to-use approach will probably always be in need of a powerful front-end (Denemo, perhaps future extended Frescobaldi, stylesheets, code templates etc.), or prefer to stay with Finale or Sibelius (or worse, Capella, etc.) default output, no matter how ugly it be. But developing those front-ends should be somewhat separate from actual Lilypond core development, shouldn’t it? And oops, this post landed inbetween the two large threads currently going on… :-)On 4/22/15 1:30 PM, "Martin Tarenskeen" <address@hidden> wrote:Stiil, I will try to give a sketch what happens to me again and again: I want to learn about how to change defaults and how to tweak default output so I open the Notation Reference: Notation Refence -> 5. Changing Defaults " A tutorial introduction to accessing and modifying these properties can be found in the Learning Manual, see Tweaking output. This should be read first " -->I think this appropriate for a reference manual. It should point you to a tutorial, if you need the tutorial.Learning Manual -> 4. Tweaking Output -> 4.1 Tweaking Basics ->4.1.1 Introduction to tweaks "Before starting on this Chapter you may wish to review the section Contexts and engravers, as Contexts, Engravers, and the Properties contained within them are fundamental to understanding and constructing Tweaks." -->This is a potentially bigger problem, because the Learning Manual is not intended to be a reference manual. But it *is* intended to be read sequentially.
Yours, Simon
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