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From: | Jogchum Reitsma |
Subject: | Re: Alla breve notation in Kyrie (2) from Bach's Hohe Messe |
Date: | Sat, 9 Jul 2016 20:53:07 +0200 |
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Op 08-07-16 om 16:15 schreef David Wright:
On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 14:50:03 (+0200), Jogchum Reitsma wrote:I didn't have the opportunity to look at Bach's handwriting. I have checked two edited versions. One uses 4/4, the other C (not cut C). So I gather that's correct.Hold on, are you saying that the second Kyrie of BWV232 is *not* alla breve, but in 4/4 ? Any chance of knowing which versions you consulted?Op 07-07-16 om 14:28 schreef Malte Meyn:Am 07.07.2016 um 13:48 schrieb Jogchum Reitsma:In the second Kyrie from J.S. Bach's Hohe Messe, the time signature is 4/4, but the bars are filled with 8 quarter notes or its equivalent in time.Are you sure you meant 4/4 which is shown as C? Bach uses the cut C (alla breve).Cheers, David.
Hi David,Indeed in the editions I saw the time is set as 4/4, but "Alla breve" is noted above the piece.
In the meantime I noticed that Bach uses cut C in his handwriting (thanks to Malte and Simon for the links). For me - but I am by no means competent in the matter - is still is odd to see cut C noted, and than not two, but four halves in each bar.
But I saw the tiny half-bar lines in the autograph Simon pointed to.For me, the theoretical aspect is less important now. My aim was to have printed the 4/4 version in lilypond, since the choir I sing in is used to that edition.
Thanks a lot! regards, Jogchum Reitsma
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