Re: Fwd: Re: Is the lyric-syllable-magnetic-snap snippet obsolete?

[Urs Liska]

Hi Alexander,


Am 15.07.2017 um 19:50 schrieb Alexander Kobel:
> Hi,
>
> have to be very brief right now: have a look at
>
>
> https://github.com/akobel/openlilylib/commit/bbba147196bb8527ed09d8db6b97246c579995fb
>
>
> Not sure why I didn't seem to make that a PR... I thought I did? (I
> filed the first PR without the version predicate, which was rightfully
> declined for breaking on earlier versions.)
> Anyway, the link should show the necessary modifications to make it
> work. Not sure if other things broke in the meantime, though.

Thank you very much for this link.
Indeed this fixed the problem, and I could add the fix to the new place:
https://github.com/openlilylib/oll-misc/commit/9909473b29e51300e8f75179cef62db96fb715e6

I think there's room to improve the user experience (the OLL approach is
that (if possible) loading the module implicitly installs the thing and
makes it configurable through \setOption commands), but for now I'm
happy that it works. I think this is really a great function, and
actually I'd really love to see that in LilyPond proper.

Best
Urs

>
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
>
> On 2017-07-14 09:21, David Nalesnik wrote:
>> On Jul 13, 2017 3:36 PM, "Urs Liska" <address@hidden
>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>
>>     Also forwarding to the list.
>>
>>     However, despite my hope at the end of the below message I did *not*
>>     find the culprit why it doesn't work with current LilyPond anymore.
>>     It would be cool if you (David) could have a look at the code and
>>     help me get this to work again.
>>
>>     Best
>>     Urs
>>
>> I'll have a look when I'm at my computer.  I think I gave you the
>> wrong predicate--should be ly:grob-properties?  I think.  In any
>> case, I'll work it out.
>>
>>
>>     -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>     Subject:     Re: Is the lyric-syllable-magnetic-snap snippet
>> obsolete?
>>     To:     David Nalesnik <address@hidden>
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>>     Hi David,
>>
>>     thanks for the reply.
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>>     Am 13.07.2017 um 22:06 schrieb David Nalesnik:
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Jul 13, 2017 2:53 PM, "Urs Liska" <address@hidden
>>>     <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         There is the snippet
>>>         notation-snippets/lyric-syllable-magnetic-snap
>>>         which doesn't work with 2.19.60 (2.18 works).
>>>
>>>
>>>     I believe it can be fixed by changing a predicate (sorry i can't
>>>     view the source now to say which one) to ly:grob-property?  This
>>>     would make it fail with 2.18, so a version predicate would be
>>> needed.
>>>
>>
>>     OK, maybe I'll find it myself then.
>>     I'm right now working on a new openLilyLib package. This means I
>>     won't keep 2.18 support. We decided to drop that with the oll-core
>>     based infrastructure, just because there are so fundamental
>>     improvements around 2.19.22 (mostly these, but of course all the
>>     other general improvements as well) that we just won't keep it
>>     working on the different versions.
>>     So in *this* case I can ignore that.
>>
>>>
>>>         Is this something that has been integrated into LilyPond by
>>>         now? I seem
>>>         to recall that words in lyrics are joined now if there's no
>>>         space for
>>>         hyphensl
>>>
>>>
>>>     This would be news to me.
>>
>>     Oh, what I pity. I thought this would work by now.
>>     Obviously I mistook it for the feature that the hyphen is
>>     automatically removed (see attachment).
>>
>>     Do you recall any reason why you didn't add this to LilyPond then?
>>
>>
>> Probably because introducing a new LyricWord grob seemed like a big
>> change, so I was hoping for some feedback before going forward. 
>> Also, I seem to remember some issues reported on the user list or on
>> GitHub.  I haven't looked into these.
>>
>> I'm happy to push forward with this, but it would be best when 2.20
>> has been locked down.
>>
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