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Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements


From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Subject: Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 13:11:04 -0700


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Paolo Prete <paolopr976@gmail.com>
To: Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr>
Cc: Thomas Morley <thomasmorley65@gmail.com>, Lilypond-User Mailing List <lilypond-user@gnu.org>, lilypond-devel <lilypond-devel@gnu.org>, Pierre Perol-Schneider <pierre.schneider.paris@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 21:07:27 +0200
Subject: Re: Pedal cautionary after a line break (current status and improvements)


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:00 PM Jean Abou Samra <jean@abou-samra.fr> wrote:
So, in order to produce a concrete result, at least the point 2) should be accepted / understood. This is what I tried to do, but the thread seems to go in the opposite way. This is why I think that opening a ticket would be unuseful for now and I did not open it. But if you think it could be useful, be free (of course) to open it ...

This is precisely the heart of the question. LilyPond development is
(mostly) not driven by the importance of issues but rather by pleasure and
interest. Which means that you just need one person willing to spend time on
piano pedals − and skilled enough for that − regardless of the issue's
weight. That can happen now, or in months or in years, who knows.
In the
most extreme cases, issues can be resolved a decade after they were

reported. Look at the one David Stephen Grant fixed just two weeks ago:

https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/1722
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/merge_requests/119

This is why issues are so essential. They help organize work on a long time frame.

By the way, the Type::Enhancement label expresses no judgement about wether the
issue is a major one. It's to be understood as opposed to Type::Defect: this ticket

is about an enhancement because the current output is consistent and there is
no
crash.

I opened https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6005 .


I would not proceed in this way.
The lack of a cautionary pedal on a bracket could be seen as an enhancement only in a self-referential context, which doesn't make sense to me. A proper way to proceed is to check what modern professional engravers do with it, and check as a consequence if Lilypond is coherent with them (-> common practice) 
AFAIK nobody uses a bracket without a starting word in professional engraving, it would have too many bad side effects. And opening an issue as an enhancement IMHO will weaken the urgency of fixing this.

Best,

P


Not that anyone asked my opinion, but I feel compelled to point out:

1) There should NOT be any sense of urgency, since nothing is broken.  It just doesn't work the way you want to, it's not as good as it could be.  There are workarounds.  It is something that is needed in surely less than 1% of all sheet music, so it is practically speaking, irrelevant.

2) Your complaining about the lilypond community process for how the issue was tagged will probably reduce anyone's interest in working on it.  So, even if you do succeed in getting it tagged as more urgent, it will likely be a pyrrhic victory.


Elaine Alt
elaine@flaminghakama.com
 

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