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Re: oldie/newbie convert/fresco question


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: oldie/newbie convert/fresco question
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 18:56:06 +0200
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jh <info@soundand.com> writes:

> A while back David K kept on trying to get me to update beyond 2.18.2
> even though I said I'd failed a number of times and that many of the
> changes between these versions seem opaque to me.
>
> My main text editor has developed a major crash where it freezes
> everything and the creator is unable to fix it.

Text editors don't "develop" such things.  It sounds like your system is
deteriorating, either on the hardware level or because of some updates
increasingly having destabilised the overall coherence.  Assuming that
you are not suffering from malware.

> I have rarely used Frescobaldi because generally everything has worked
> but when stymied it has helped in the past to find my mistake.
> So I decided to default to it.  Noticed that it has a convert ly tool
> tried it.
> This machine is generally not online; the convert tool ran for 4 hours
> and nothing changed.  I gave in and went online and the tool does
> work.
>
> 1] it seems that this will not work if unconnected to the internet.

I am not a regular Frescobaldi user but when I used it, it never
required Internet access except possibly for items in the Help menus
referencing online manuals and other resources (LSR?).  LilyPond itself
does not really have any connectivity.

If convert-ly gets stuck without Internet access (and runs with it), the
most likely reason is that the Python executable it is running on
requires such Internet access.  And the most likely reason for that is
that it or one of the underlying libraries is infected by malware.

> My notation win10 is not connected for various reasons and just as I
> have had issues with updating versions to lily I have even connected
> to the internet am unable to update win10 which is fine- sort of.

In the context of this discussion, I cannot rule out that regular win10
here counts as malware in that it may require connectivity for doing
something.  I don't have relevant experience using win10 so I have no
idea whether that could be the case.  It's conceivable that your
security software refuses to run some software before it had an
opportunity to ask the Microsoft databases whether something bad is
known about it.

> I'm kind of hoping this is the right place to ask this as it is
> connected to Frescobaldi but seems to me to be a lily question.

I think this is not related to LilyPond, likely at best marginally
related to Frescobaldi, and most likely related to your system and
possibly its security settings or its affliction by malware.

-- 
David Kastrup



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