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Re: ties with accidental split over lines
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Knute Snortum |
Subject: |
Re: ties with accidental split over lines |
Date: |
Fri, 26 Nov 2021 07:46:25 -0800 |
I think it is the slur that is lower, not the accidental that is
higher, and I think its placement is correct according to "convention"
(or Gould), but if you want to change the shape of a slur broken over
two systems, you can use the \shape command:
\version "2.22.1"
\include "english.ly"
slurShapeA = \shape #'(
((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0)) % leave the
first broken slur alone
((0 . 1) (0 . 1) (0 . 1) (0 . 1)) % Change
the height without changing the shape
) Slur
\layout {
line-width = #50
indent = #0
}
\relative c'
{
\clef "bass"
\time 3/4
s4 s e ~ | %1
\break
e^\markup{"tie"} r e( | %2
\break
e^\markup{"slur"}) r ef ~ | %3
\break
ef^\markup{"tie"} r \slurShapeA ef( | % 4
\break
ef^\markup{"slur"}) % 5
}
--
Knute Snortum
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 6:34 PM David Zelinsky <dzpost@dedekind.net> wrote:
>
> When a tie on an accidental is split over two systems, Lilypond shows
> the accidental on both notes (which I think is correct), but then
> positions the tie on the second note very high, so as to clear the
> accidental. This looks wrong, since ties are generally supposed to be
> close to the note head, and in particular closer to the note head than a
> slur would be. But when there's a slur in this same circumstance,
> Lilypond sets the slur on the second note lower than for a tie, allowing
> it to intersect the accidental.
>
> Was this a design choice? Is it a standard thing in engraving? I don't
> have a good reference (e.g. Gould) in which to look this up. I just
> think it seems wrong.
>
> And if I wanted to change it, to lower the tie on the second note, how
> would I do that? I don't thing \shape will work in this situation,
> since how would it know which part of the tie I'm talking about?
>
> See snippet below. Screen shot is attached.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -David
>
>
>
> \version "2.22.1"
> \include "english.ly"
>
> \layout {
> line-width = #50
> indent = #0
> }
>
> \relative c'
> {
> \clef "bass"
> \time 3/4
> s4 s e ~ | %1
> \break
> e^\markup{"tie"} r e( | %2
> \break
> e^\markup{"slur"}) r ef ~ | %3
> \break
> ef^\markup{"tie"} r ef( | % 4
> \break
> ef^\markup{"slur"}) % 5
> }
>
>