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Re: Generating a spiccato


From: Ralph Palmer
Subject: Re: Generating a spiccato
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 08:18:05 -0700

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:35 PM Jacques Menu <imj-muzhic@bluewin.ch> wrote:
Hello Werner,

Thanks for the clarification!

JM

> Le 13 juil. 2022 à 16:40, Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org> a écrit :
>
>
>>> In MusixXML, this sign is <spiccato/> (The <spiccato/> element |
>>> MusicXML 4.0 (w3.org)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2021/06/musicxml40/musicxml-reference/elements/spiccato/>),
>>> the same sign is named \staccatissimo in Lilypond.
>>> In MusixXML, <staccatissimo/> looks like this:  (The <staccatissimo>
>>> element | MusicXML 4.0 (w3.org)
>>> <https://www.w3.org/2021/06/musicxml40/musicxml-reference/elements/staccatissimo/>),
>>> but it seems there is no corresponding articulation in Lilypond and no
>>> glyph in the Emmentaler font.
>>>
>>> So the question is: is there interest among the LilyPond community to
>>> add the latter glyph in some way?
>
> I consider the distinction between these two glyphs completely
> arbitrary.  At normal size, the difference between a concave and a
> convex top is not really visible.
>
> If you look at
>
https://w3c.github.io/smufl/latest/tables/articulation.html
>
> you can see that both glyph shapes in question are defined as variants
> of 'staccatissimo' – for spiccato, there doesn't exist a symbol.  And
> rightly so: I've never seen a symbol for spiccato except an ordinary
> staccato point with the word 'spicc.' (if at all).
>
>
>     Werner



My apologies - I haven't been paying attention, and I don't know where my head was at. I think it's important that spiccato is a bowing technique, and staccato is an articulation (a quality of sound) which can be accomplished through spiccato (and, depending on the circumstances, other bowing techniques). Also, I would imagine that staccato is possible on instruments on which spiccato is impossible : flute, guitar, maybe piano?

All the best,

Ralph

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