Re: Octave without Xcode

[Ben Abbott]

On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:

> I'm moving this discussion to the maintainers' list.
> 
> 2012/1/23 Alexander Hansen <address@hidden>:
> 
>> A fair number of open-source packages require headers from the SDKs
>> from Xcode by default to build on OS X.
> 
> Well, as far as we're concerned, do we require Xcode? Should we be
> telling Octave users who want to install a few Octave-Forge packages
> that they have to first get Apple's permission to do so?
> 
> Also, Octave isn't primarily open source, so that limitation shouldn't
> concern us either. ;-)
> 
>> By avoiding the native windowing system in favor of X11, (but not the
>> official one provided by Apple, whose SDK is in Xcode) it might be
>> possible to avoid Xcode, but I've never tried.
> 
> What is the SDK that Xcode provides and you can't compile without?
> 
> It seems very strange that there are free compilers for MacIntosh
> personal computers but no free way to use them (i.e. without
> registering with Apple and agreeing to their clickthroughs). Is this
> really the current state of affairs?
> 
> - Jordi G. H.

I think it is possible to avoid Xcode, but all the package managers on MacOS 
I've looked at require it.

The Apple frameworks I link to are X11, Carbon, and vecLib.

I agree with Alexander, and think I can do without all of them, but haven't 
tried using XQuartz (instead of Apple's X11/Xcode combo) since I moved to OSX 
10.7 (Lion).

        http://xquartz.macosforge.org/trac/wiki

Ben