Re: Contribution to Octave as a PM

[Julien Hamilton]

Haha why not Juan!

Yes it's always a challenge when you want to improve a software, making it more "corporate", but with staying with the basic principles. I was thinking about the fact that Octave offers functions to connect to the nonfree software Microsoft Excel.

JH

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal <address@hidden> wrote:

On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Julien Hamilton
<address@hidden> wrote:
> Hi Juan,
>
> I agree it should not be all about the money. I was just giving an example
> where libre software can be created by paid developments.
>
> My idea here is to help to make Octave a little bit more popular and
> attractive to contributors, and not to go against GNU principles.
>
> JH
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Juan Pablo Carbajal <address@hidden>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:09 PM, fgnievinski <address@hidden> wrote:
>> > Agreed; we could borrow from AOO:
>> > <http://www.openoffice.org/why/>
>> > "Great software; Easy to use; and it's free!"
>> > -F.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:33 AM, CdeMills [via Octave] <[hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The opensource ecosystem is vast and diversified.
>> >>
>> >> On the one hand, you're right that Octave could benefit from funding.
>> >> OTOH, promoting Octave as the-poor-man  MatLab does not seems adaquate
>> >> to
>> >> me. At first, we will appear as a MatLab concurrent, and as so will
>> >> become a
>> >> "target" for actions. Second, when I see students from countries where
>> >> copyright laws are less enforced, they all have crackeds version of
>> >> you-just-name-it. They prefer to use some MatLab of dubious ancestry
>> >> because
>> >> "it is standard". They mean it both ways: everybody write and diffuse
>> >> code
>> >> in THIS language, and everybody crack it.
>> >>
>> >> I thus conclude that "money" should not be the only argument; we should
>> >> agree on other metrics to promote actions around Octave.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
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>> I do not think this is exactly the message we want to highlight
>> "and it's free
>> Best of all, Apache OpenOffice can be downloaded and used entirely
>> free of any license fees."
>>
>> It is not best of all, it is a consequence of the other values we are
>> trying to promote: freedom.
>> I would not even highlight this point but the other advantages of
>> libre software.
>> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
>
>

Julien,
Sure, and is great that people with your background join in. I fully
support your initiative. but I think is important to highlight this
little details earlier better than later.

It would be awesome if at some point we could organize an Octave
contest...with prizes! :D