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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Re: Several Issues about Purchasing Paparazzi Hard

From: David Conger
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Re: Several Issues about Purchasing Paparazzi Hardware
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 18:36:23 -0700


PPZUAV does not have the resources to pay the lawyers to determine if it is legal or not to ship Paparazzi items to China. 

The risk far outweigh the benefits and I am not a risk taker with my personal liberty or US Customs laws. 

Surely there are resources in China capable of following the Wiki and providing these items to the Chinese people interested in joining the Paparazzi project. The URL is well known and if you're on the list then likely you have everything you need to get going. 

David Conger

On May 21, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Roman Krashanitsa wrote:

As far as I know,
Under Australian rules, "A miniature aircraft that is used, or intending to be used, commercially or for gain is a UAV."
and under US rules, any device that can be potentially used/flown remotely (no pilot on the airplane) is a UAV.
All UAVs are subject to export control.
Really, it is up to PPZUAV or Buzz to decide is he wants to ship the units. Another healthy option is to make those in China.
Roman Krashanitsa

2010/5/21 James Peverill <address@hidden>

I would suggest anyone in the US considering shipping PPZ hardware to China (or anywhere overseas) talk to a lawyer versed in export control law.  The penalties for knowingly violating the laws can be very stiff (ie jail time and/or huge fines).  In particular, the US maintains an arms embargo against China so the rules are more strict.

Unfortunately US export laws governing UAV technologies are very strict.  Since Paparazzi is not a military product, it should not be covered under the ITAR (which would explicitly restrict any export without requesting permission for each individual export).  However, general export restrictions do cover "Navigation and Avionics" technologies which may restrict export to China.  Whether an unprogrammed paparazzi autopilot is still covered is debatable, but again I'd talk to a lawyer.

Anyways, I don't want to bring down the list, or insult our researchers in China, but I'd hate to see someone unknowingly run afoul of these laws.  I'm not a fan of these restrictions but unfortunately people in the US need to be mindful of them.


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