[Paparazzi-devel] Sparkfun

[Christian Behrens]

Hello,
does anybody know if it's possible to connect this IMU:
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9623
to the Tiny 2.0 via SPI Interface. 
I'm asking this because the SPI Interface on the IMU has no Pin for the
interrupt.

Thanks in advance for your answers

Christian

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Am Donnerstag, den 24.06.2010, 16:49 -0400 schrieb
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:48:47 +0200
> From: "Michele Santucci" <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
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> Hi Roman, Hi everyone,
> 
> I don't know either Gator team or Peter Ifju so I don't know if they're 
> involved in OpenJaus.
> For my knowledge of JAUS the standard is an US DoD spin-off tought for 
> military Unmanned 
> Veichles (it started for Unmanned Ground assets and then it's been 
> generalized to generic UV).
> In my company we're going to use it to open-up the communication protocol of 
> our UV.
> I think this's a good starting point to open further Paparazzi structure of 
> course keeping under
> control the complexity and the overhead of a multipurpose protocol.
> 
>     bye by[t]e{s}... TuX!
> 
> 
> From: Roman Krashanitsa 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:38 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
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> 
> Michele, 
> 
> very good find! Do you know if this is done by Gator team and Peter Ifju? I 
> was not aware that they are involved with this kind of through software spec 
> development. Or may be it's not them..
> 
> I think, the spec is so high-level and general that at the current stage, any 
> autopilot will fit or can be made to fit. Well, unless they will try to 
> specify format of the node-level-and-below messages.
> 
> Roman
> 
> 2010/6/23 Michele Santucci <address@hidden>
> 
>   Hallo everybody!
> 
>   even if this thread is apparently closed I would encourage anyone 
> interested in GCS development
>   and/or in UAV<->GCS communication to give a look to OpenJaus 
> (http://www.openjaus.com/).
>   I personally think that Paparazzi already have a good GCS and reliable 
> protocol but IMHO keeping
>   in touch with the efforts of creating a standard it's never a bad idea.
> 
>       bye by[t]e{s}... TuX!
> 
> 
>   From: Marko Thaler 
>   Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:43 PM
>   To: address@hidden 
>   Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
> 
> 
>   Hello everybody! 
> 
> 
>   I have been observing the communication on the development board with 
> regards to the future Paparazzi GCS development and the OCaml programming 
> language.
> 
> 
>   I have my deepest respect for the work Pascal has done on the GCS and 
> Paparazzi in general. Now that we have lost him I gradually start to 
> comprehend the enormous hole he has left behind and the implications of using 
> a programming language for the GCS that is not widely adopted.
> 
> 
>   As I understand the basic problem for future Paparazzi GCS development is 
> the lack of OCaml programming skills that are present in the community. At 
> the same time in the worldwide open source UAV communities there is a 
> stronger and stronger desire for defining open standards for UAV <-> GCS 
> communication and provide an open GCS development platform.  Is there a 
> common solution to both problems?
> 
> 
>   I do not know! However, while surfing the internet I came across the 
> QGroundControl from the PixHawk team that tries to provide open standards and 
> a general UAV GCS (everything written in GPL-ed C++ Qt framework). I 
> understand there would be quite a lot of work to transition the Paparazzi 
> system to another GCS (reintegrate communication protocol, rewrite the 
> generation of control parameters from the airframe file, etc.). But maybe in 
> the long run the Paparazzi community and open source UAV communities in 
> general could benefit from using a common GCS development platform.
> 
> 
>   I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about the future Paparazzi 
> GCS development options.
> 
> 
>   Thank you and kind regards,
> 
> 
>   Marko
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> Hallo Gareth, Hallo everyone,
> 
> I'm not in Florence and I'm not an official Paparazzier (up to now I'm just 
> a mailing list reader working on UV)
> but I'm going to become one soon.
> Anyway if you're going to descend a little more to the south I can provide 
> you some assistance near
> La Spezia (about 200km from Florence).
> 
> bye by[t]e{s}... TuX!
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> From: "Gareth Roberts" <address@hidden>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:29 AM
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> Subject: [Paparazzi-devel] Any Italian Paparazziers?
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We've been hired to carry out a volcanic gas sensing experiment on three 
> > volcanoes in the south of Italy.  However, as our gear is pretty delicate 
> > and we don't trust airlines, we are planning to drive from the UK to 
> > Sicily, with a stop somewhere along the way, probably Florence.  If 
> > Florence, we have somewhere to stay but need secure parking as we are 
> > towing a trailer.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows of anywhere we could park a car and 
> > trailer overnight in Florence safely?  In return, we can offer paparazzi 
> > help if you need it, plus beverages of your choice.  Just thought I'd put 
> > this out on the off-chance.
> > Was also wondering if anyone has experience of taking nitro fuel (~20l) on 
> > a cross channel ferry.
> >
> > Many thanks!
> > --G
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> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:49:22 -0700
> From: Roman Krashanitsa <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
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> Hi everyone, hi Michele,
> 
> I am very glad that finally there is a some sort of standard to follow if
> one wants to implement a communication protocol for a new project.
> 
> However, I have several questions as to viability of JAUS for the paparazzi.
> 
> 1. Paparazzi is a mature project with its own reliable and robust protocol.
> 
> 2. Range of projects that use Paparazzi is pretty significant with airplanes
> as small as 30cm span where weight savings is a primary concern.
> Adding this standard compliance at system level will require an additional
> on-board translator taxing performance and adding weight to the system. By
> the way, we already have some unnecessary in my opition, steps in
> communication protocol, such as adding CRC to paparazzi protocol messages
> when they are wrapped into XBee protocol which also has error control.
> 
> 3. If we consider a system as an airplane+ground station when it would be
> relatively easy to add some JAUS translator thanks to the openness of the
> Paparazzi messaging and Ivy bus. So than JAUS entry point and exit point
> from/to Paparazzi will be the ground station.
> 
> As far as I understood from the JAUS specs, there is no such a hierarchy
> level as airplane+ground station..
> 
> Also, do we really want a compliance to a military standard at all?
> 
> 
> What do you guys think?
> Sincerely,
> Roman Krashanitsa
> 
> 2010/6/24 Michele Santucci <address@hidden>
> 
> >  Hi Roman, Hi everyone,
> >
> > I don't know either Gator team or Peter Ifju so I don't know if they're
> > involved in OpenJaus.
> > For my knowledge of JAUS the standard is an US DoD spin-off tought for
> > military Unmanned
> > Veichles (it started for Unmanned Ground assets and then it's been
> > generalized to generic UV).
> > In my company we're going to use it to open-up the communication protocol
> > of our UV.
> > I think this's a good starting point to open further Paparazzi structure of
> > course keeping under
> > control the complexity and the overhead of a multipurpose protocol.
> >
> >     bye by[t]e{s}... TuX!
> >
> >  *From:* Roman Krashanitsa <address@hidden>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:38 PM
> >  *To:* address@hidden
> > *Subject:* Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
> >
> > Michele,
> >
> > very good find! Do you know if this is done by Gator team and Peter Ifju? I
> > was not aware that they are involved with this kind of through software spec
> > development. Or may be it's not them..
> >
> > I think, the spec is so high-level and general that at the current stage,
> > any autopilot will fit or can be made to fit. Well, unless they will try to
> > specify format of the node-level-and-below messages.
> >
> > Roman
> > 2010/6/23 Michele Santucci <address@hidden>
> >
> >>  Hallo everybody!
> >>
> >> even if this thread is apparently closed I would encourage anyone
> >> interested in GCS development
> >> and/or in UAV<->GCS communication to give a look to OpenJaus (
> >> http://www.openjaus.com/).
> >> I personally think that Paparazzi already have a good GCS and reliable
> >> protocol but IMHO keeping
> >> in touch with the efforts of creating a standard it's never a bad idea.
> >>
> >>     bye by[t]e{s}... TuX!
> >>
> >>  *From:* Marko Thaler <address@hidden>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:43 PM
> >>  *To:* address@hidden
> >> *Subject:* [Paparazzi-devel] Thoughts about the GCS
> >>
> >> Hello everybody!
> >>
> >> I have been observing the communication on the development board with
> >> regards to the future Paparazzi GCS development and the OCaml programming
> >> language.
> >>
> >> I have my deepest respect for the work Pascal has done on the GCS and
> >> Paparazzi in general. Now that we have lost him I gradually start to
> >> comprehend the enormous hole he has left behind and the implications of
> >> using a programming language for the GCS that is not widely adopted.
> >>
> >> As I understand the basic problem for future Paparazzi GCS development is
> >> the lack of OCaml programming skills that are present in the community. At
> >> the same time in the worldwide open source UAV communities there is a
> >> stronger and stronger desire for defining open standards for UAV <-> GCS
> >> communication and provide an open GCS development platform.  Is there a
> >> common solution to both problems?
> >>
> >> I do not know! However, while surfing the internet I came across the
> >> QGroundControl <http://qgroundcontrol.org/start> from the 
> >> PixHawk<http://pixhawk.ethz.ch/> team
> >> that tries to provide open standards and a general UAV GCS (everything
> >> written in GPL-ed C++ Qt <http://qt.nokia.com/> framework). I understand
> >> there would be quite a lot of work to transition the Paparazzi system to
> >> another GCS (reintegrate communication protocol, rewrite the generation of
> >> control parameters from the airframe file, etc.). But maybe in the long run
> >> the Paparazzi community and open source UAV communities in general could
> >> benefit from using a common GCS development platform.
> >>
> >> I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions about the future Paparazzi
> >> GCS development options.
> >>
> >> Thank you and kind regards,
> >>
> >> Marko
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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