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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Interference in flight Umarim lite 2.0


From: Martin Mueller
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Interference in flight Umarim lite 2.0
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:44:35 +0100
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Hi Joseph,

I have tried running the motor with propeller on a bench. After a good
run, when close to my metal door, the servos don't respond instantly to
the radio and have glitches. i also noticed that when this happens, the
OK radio indicator  in the GCS is half green half orange .

this now sound like there is an issue with the RC receiver rather then the servos. Correcting my last email: All grounds should be connected at one point near the battery ground (like in a star). No parts should be chained.

Where is the receiver ground connected?

I connected the servos to the umarim ground but didn't notice any change
in my bench test (no flight). i then grounded the motor mount and added
aluminium connected to the ground around the RX - Umarim cable section
touching the battery wires. This improved my bench test, I do not see
any glitches and the OK button is now 90% green.

I went to fly and it went much better. In MANUAL I don't seem to have
issues but I didn't go full throttle after take off, however in AUTO1, I
still have glitches as the HOME mode kicks in and the plane goes down in
a spiral.

From what you say there seems to be a relation between the ESC/motor with full throttle and the receiver. Can you replace any of the parts? Paparazzi detects that the RC signal is bad and goes to home mode - which is auto2. Have you tuned the aircraft in auto2 mode?

Martin


Joseph


    Hi Joseph,

     > My plane flies great and is properly set up for AUTO1. However,
    during
     > the last two flights I could only control the plane
    intermittently.  As
     > soon as I would start throttle again I would lose control of the
    plane.
     >
     > On the ground everything works fine including range test.
     >
     > All wires are twisted but none are shielded.
     >
     > Grounding:
     > -ESC and Umarim share the same ground from the battery supply
     > -ESC's BEC seem to have common ground (measures 0 V between Umarim
     > ground and BEC ground)
     > -RX and Xbee get the ground from Umarim
     > -Servos get +5V and ground from ESC's BEC
     > -No ground on motor or motor plate
     >
     > I am not sure where to start, if anyone has had a similar issue and
     > found a fix that would help me a lot.

    sounds like a ground issue. Between the Umarim and the servos ground
    line is the battery -> ESC path. If you run the engine you will have a
    current in that path that creates a voltage that disturbs the servo
    signals. Try connecting the servos ground directly to the Umarim.

    If that helps maybe the "Large Aircraft Connection Diagram" picture in
    the Wiki needs an update.

    Martin




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