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Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Quad Tilt Rotor using Lisa/M


From: David Conger
Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Quad Tilt Rotor using Lisa/M
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 19:36:34 -0800

Yep, Linux thing.
If you follow the steps exactly it should have worked. Did any steps
given an error except the last one?
Sounds like you didn't do the cd paparazzi then make command before
doing the ./paparazzi
-DC

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Richardson, Mark E C1C USAF USAFA
CW/CS13 <address@hidden> wrote:
> Hey there David, I have just got the Lisa/M in and am having trouble with the 
> paparazzi center. I'ts most likely because im just very unfamiliar to linux. 
> I was able to successfully install it using the quickstart on Ubuntu 12.04 
> and had it running. But now I have no Idea how to open it. I've opened a 
> terminal and typed the "./paparazzi" command but that just responds 
> "./paparazzi is a directory".
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> -mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: address@hidden [mailto:address@hidden On Behalf Of David Conger
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 10:04 PM
> To: Paparazzi UAV devel list
> Subject: Re: [Paparazzi-devel] Quad Tilt Rotor using Lisa/M
>
> Hey Mark,
>
> Have you see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7XgRK7pMoU
>
> Transitioning platform code is written and tested in Paparazzi already. Note 
> the landings of the winged body (Quadshot) as it nears landing it switches to 
> hover and lands. The wind was howling that day (I was there)...easily 20+ MPH.
>
> What makes Paparazzi the one to use is the maturity and depth of the code. 
> The real world is not still air and perfect conditions.
> Paparazzi excels in real world conditions and very imperfect weather.
>
> PixHawk, my opinion is it's new hardware and untested. That project measures 
> itself primarily in business terms of units made and sold not successful 
> flights or missions and competitions won. Granted they are extremely 
> successful in business terms but I have yet to see success measured in real 
> world missions or competitions. They are very aggressive marketers and are 
> very good at selling their project so I'm not surprised you were contacted 
> after posting here. They also have many members subscribed to this email list.
>
> Paparazzi is used by quite a lot of people actually. It is a very mature, 
> open and growing community. They are all just quietly doing academics or 
> research projects very much like yours not sales or marketing. There are even 
> several commercial platforms with Paparazzi under the hood. A few Govt 
> projects using Paparazzi based systems.
> There are Paparazzi drones flying for more than 7 years in the Arctic and 
> Antarctic regions doing atmospheric research. These are not people planning 
> but real, complex missions like yours successfully flying.
> Success in Paparazzi terms is measured in members starting, building and 
> flying the mission intended with 100% accuracy and zero failure.
> Success is also measured in winning UAV competitions around the World.
> Paparazzi since 2002 has either won or placed top three every year, year 
> after year. A Paparazzi based team TUDelft won the outdoor and indoor 
> competition for IMAV2013 by flying simultaneously 12 drones with a single 
> operator using a single laptop ground station (video URL given above).
>
> I think you have chosen Paparazzi so I'm probably preaching to the choir. 
> You've made a great choice. You are in good company here and there are many 
> in the USA and Worldwide to help you along. Welcome.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Richardson, Mark E C1C USAF USAFA
> CW/CS13 <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Reto, thanks so much for the information, I will be contacting Piotr and 
>> Wagter and see if they can offer me any guidance on this. As far as the 
>> transition deliverables you posted, I don’t think we will attempt to reach 
>> such high efficiency just yet;  the innovative part of our project is that 
>> the quad tilt rotor has the capability of being stored in an un-deployed 
>> configuration and  remotely deploying itself (if everything goes correctly, 
>> it will do this mid air after being dropped from 4000' AGL and using a drag 
>> chute to slow it down) However, if it all goes correctly, we will most 
>> likely see if there is anything we can do to improve efficiency.
>>
>> Chris, after looking at the pictures of the VERTI4 I think you are 
>> underestimating 60", that’s 5 full feet which after testing our wing out, 
>> seems closer to double the size of the one in the youtube video. Also, the 
>> wing was manufactured to be able to handle our total 12lb weight through a 
>> 3G turn so hopefully we can catch enough speed that the wing will no longer 
>> be just decoration.
>>
>> What are your opinions on the Pixhawk Autopilot, I just had it suggested to 
>> me after the last post.
>>
>> PS - I just got a hold of a tiny computer and put UBUNTU on  it, 
>> unfortunately I'm not allowed to hook it up to the GOV network we use so I 
>> will have to get a 4G wifi hotspot before I can download and start to work 
>> with the Paparazzi software  --- also put through a request for an order of 
>> the Lisa/M which will hopefully be ordered tomorrow;  what is the shipping 
>> time usually on this and what accessories come with it?
>>
>>
>> Again thanks so much to all of you for giving my teams project some time. I 
>> will do my best to keep this site updated on the progress and will 
>> definitely post questions to get more help.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>> Mark Richardson
>> USAF Academy
>>
>>
>>
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