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Re: [Plex86-devel] Re: [Plex86-developers] Performance characteristics


From: Nuno Silva
Subject: Re: [Plex86-devel] Re: [Plex86-developers] Performance characteristics
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 03:35:11 +0000
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Until we can test the "new plex86" this is all vaporware.

I belive, however, that plex86 will be, at best, 10% slower than vmware at ordinary tasks... But everyone can think what they like :)

Let's wait and don't rush to the hype. How soon can we test a "new plex86" version that works? :)

Regards,
Nuno Silva

Daniel Phillips wrote:
On Thu 20 Feb 03 07:06, niraj tolia wrote:

Actually VMWare gets very close to raw performance for operations that do
not need to be trapped by the VM. In other words, I have observed VMWare to
be quite fast for certain applications. For example, VMWare is fast enough
to saturate 100 Mbit connections.


This is true of UML as well, when it is not doing, e.g., block IO or rearranging memory. The bottom line performance is going to depend on how often the application hits the slow paths, and how slow the slow paths are. My impression of Kevin's current work is that it strips away the horribly slow paths, and uses only the virtualization techniques that the processor is capable of handling efficiently.

As Kevin keeps saying, the big difference between UML and the newly simplified Plex86 is that Plex86 is not a port. It will be much less sensitive to rapidly changing internals in the guest kernel. As it is, every new 2.5 release tends to break UML and Jeff Dike energetically puts it back together again, causing UML's availability to lag Linus's releases by a days or two, never mind Linus's BK version. Plex86 on the other hand should just work, giving it a big advantage for bleeding edge kernel hacking.

Api changes in the stable kernel may break Plex86's kernel module from time to time, but that's no big deal, since a kernel developer can continue using the old host that works.

Regards,

Daniel



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