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Re: ci scripts in pspp source tree

From: Friedrich Beckmann
Subject: Re: ci scripts in pspp source tree
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 18:14:18 +0200

I would like to avoid any kind of lock-in to some service that

  * will maybe be switched off at some day or 
  * it turns out that we cannot use it due to legal issues or
  * may change their service rendering it unusable

I agree with you that Travis achieves a high score in this respect.
Thats why I setup the buildbot at Hochschule Augsburg which is based
on buildbot released under GPL 2 (see:

The same scripts in the ci folder are used by the debian git builds on buildbot

  * debian-sid-i386, debian-sid-amd64, debian-buster-amd64

and by the Ubuntu bionic build on travis


The file „.travis.yml“ is required for the Ubuntu build on Travis.
If the Ubuntu build would move to buildbot, then the .travis.yml file
could be removed. Then also the pspp repository on github can be removed.
So I reduced the travis specifics to this .travis.yml file - but even
that is not really true because buildbot offers an adaptor that can control
the build from a .travis.yml file: (MIT license)

That is however currently not installed on the buildbot server. The MacOS
builds cannot move to the buildbot because these builds need apple hardware.
But the MacOS builds are currently controlled by other repositories.

So from my perspective „code … which can only be run using travis“ is not the
code that I would like to merge :-)


> Am 17.08.2020 um 16:21 schrieb John Darrington <>:
> I'm uneasy with code in the repo which can only be run using travis,
> because
> 1) It seems to be SaaSS
> 2) Its terms of use state:
> Travis CI offers the use of the Travis CI Software only to entrepreneurs
> within the meaning of section 14 (1) of the German Civil Code.
> and section 14(1) defines an entrepeneur to exclude hobbyists.
> (For the benefit of non-germans:
> )
> It's effectively not free software if people cannot use it whilst
> exercising their hobby.
> J'
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 01:53:37PM +0200, Friedrich Beckmann wrote:
>     I have worked on the continuous integration on github/travis and
>     on the dedicated pspp build server with buildbot. Up to now I have
>     kept the ci scripts in a dedicated branch on github but now
>     I would like to merge this into savannah master. The change
>     will introduce 
>       * a new directory ???ci??? which contains build scripts
>       * a new file .travis.yml (script instructs)
>       * a modification of the to ignore the ci
>         files in the git-distribution check
>     The changes are here:
>     Do you mind the merge?
>     The current builds are:
>     a) from the current git
>        on buildbot
>         -> debian-sid-i386
>         -> debian-sid-amd64
>         -> debian-buster-amd64
>        on travis
>         -> (MacOS)
>         -> (Ubuntu bionic)
>     b) from Bens nightly build distribution package or stable release
>        on buildbot
>         -> opensuse
>        on travis 
>         -> (MacOS)
>     All linux builds and probably also a future windows cross build can
>     be done on the buildbot server but the MacOS builds can only be
>     done on travis.

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