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Re: Text output and WIDTH


From: Frans Houweling
Subject: Re: Text output and WIDTH
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 09:20:06 +0100
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I see the point. The variables are indeed F8.2 format. DESCRIPTIVES created these from F12.4 input variables.
Problem solved. Thanks.
It is interesting that, as you can see from the second DESCRIPTIVES, Mean and Std Dev do seem to honor SET FORMAT, while Minimum and Maximum do not.
frans


DESCRIPTIVES meanV TO minIR /SAVE.

Mapping of Variables to Z-scores
+--------------+---------------+
|    Source    |     Target    |
+--------------+---------------+
|meanV         |ZmeanV         |
|maxV          |ZmaxV          |
|minV          |ZminV          |
|meanDistribV  |ZmeanDistribV  |
|contrastV     |ZcontrastV     |
|entropyV      |ZentropyV      |
|secondAngularV|ZsecondAngularV|
|meanIR        |ZmeanIR        |
|maxIR         |ZmaxIR         |
|minIR         |ZminIR         |
+--------------+---------------+

                     Descriptive Statistics
+--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+
|                    |  N |  Mean  | Std Dev| Minimum| Maximum |
+--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+
|meanV               |1024|  6.3672|  7.1813|  1.0000|  96.0000|
|maxV                |1024|127.5439| 60.0359|  2.0000| 255.0000|
|minV                |1024| 40.5364| 30.8521|  1.0273| 167.1484|
|meanDistribV        |1024|   .0568|   .0350|   .0000|    .1747|
|contrastV           |1024|538.8151|474.4201|   .0000|3211.4753|
|entropyV            |1024|   .1233|   .1968|   .0145|   1.0000|
|secondAngularV      |1024|  3.1392|  1.0143|   .0000|   4.3828|
|meanIR              |1024|186.0801| 33.3433|  1.0000| 250.0000|
|maxIR               |1024|243.1426|  8.5934|148.0000| 255.0000|
|minIR               |1024|223.3901| 21.6168| 80.3164| 252.9453|
|Valid N (listwise)  |1024|        |        |        |         |
|Missing N (listwise)|   0|        |        |        |         |
+--------------------+----+--------+--------+--------+---------+

DESCRIPTIVES ZmeanV TO ZminIR.

                    Descriptive Statistics
+-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+
|                         |  N | Mean|Std Dev|Minimum|Maximum|
+-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+
|Z-score of meanV         |1024|.0000| 1.0000|   -.75|  12.48|
|Z-score of maxV          |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -2.09|   2.12|
|Z-score of minV          |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -1.28|   4.10|
|Z-score of meanDistribV  |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -1.62|   3.37|
|Z-score of contrastV     |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -1.14|   5.63|
|Z-score of entropyV      |1024|.0000| 1.0000|   -.55|   4.45|
|Z-score of secondAngularV|1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -3.09|   1.23|
|Z-score of meanIR        |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -5.55|   1.92|
|Z-score of maxIR         |1024|.0000| 1.0000| -11.07|   1.38|
|Z-score of minIR         |1024|.0000| 1.0000|  -6.62|   1.37|
|Valid N (listwise)       |1024|     |       |       |       |
|Missing N (listwise)     |   0|     |       |       |       |
+-------------------------+----+-----+-------+-------+-------+




On 1/9/20 8:54 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
You can get more digits by changing the formats of the variables
involved, which I guess currently have F8.2 format or some similar
format with 2 decimal places.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 11:46 PM Frans Houweling <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Ben, it's the "Final Cluster Centers" table I am interested in.


                 Final Cluster Centers
+-------------------------+----------------------+
|                         |        Cluster       |
|                         +-----+----+-----+-----+
|                         |  1  |  2 |  3  |  4  |
+-------------------------+-----+----+-----+-----+
|Z-score of meanV         | -.43| .06| 3.57| 8.58|
|Z-score of maxV          |-1.04| .59| 1.10| 1.23|
|Z-score of minV          | -.94| .46| 2.41| 3.28|
|Z-score of meanDistribV  |-1.06| .62|  .71| -.15|
|Z-score of contrastV     | -.90| .54|  .44| -.51|
|Z-score of entropyV      |  .77|-.45| -.49| -.43|
|Z-score of secondAngularV|-1.01| .60|  .65|  .28|
|Z-score of meanIR        |  .96|-.52|-1.28|-2.76|
|Z-score of maxIR         |  .57|-.19|-2.48|-7.91|
|Z-score of minIR         |  .89|-.43|-2.19|-4.20|
+-------------------------+-----+----+-----+-----+
But it's not that important - I was just wondering why I didn't get more
digits.
Thanks

frans


On 1/9/20 8:33 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote:
At a glance, it appears that QUICK CLUSTER output contains only two
kinds of values:
- Values that are always integers. PSPP doesn't honor SET FORMAT for
these kinds of values since the decimal places would not be useful.
- Values of particular variables. PSPP uses the variables' own print
formats for these values.
Which values' formats did you want to control?

On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:52 PM Frans Houweling <address@hidden> wrote:
While you're at it, you might check why SET FORMAT has no effect on the
output of QUICK CLUSTER (it has on LOGISTIC REGRESSION). I hoped -O
format=F9.4 would work, but it doesn't.
Thanks
frans


On 1/8/20 8:21 AM, John Darrington wrote:
I thought that SET WIDTH should also work.

Also I thought that when run interactively from a terminal, it should
default to the width of the terminal.

Perhaps we need to investigate why this is not happening.

J'


On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:58:59PM -0800, Ben Pfaff wrote:
        On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 12:54 PM Frans Houweling <address@hidden> wrote:
        >    is there any way to prevent text output to wrap at 80 columns?
        > I would like to retrieve cluster centers from the output of QUICK
        > CLUSTER, but this is hindered by wrapping:

        Yes, you can specify the maximum output width with "-O width=200" on
        the command line for 200 columns (or whatever width you like).



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