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Re: [PATCH RFC] migration: warn about non-migratable configurations unle


From: Eduardo Habkost
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] migration: warn about non-migratable configurations unless '--no-migration' was specified
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:32:28 -0400

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 07:47:34PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Daniel P. Berrangé (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 06:15:56PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 06:11:47PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Eduardo Habkost (ehabkost@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > > I would make live migration policy an enum, just to make sure
> > > > > we are explicit about the requirements:
> > > > > 
> > > > > - UNKNOWN: this is the current state in QEMU 6.0, where we don't
> > > > >   really know what the user expects.
> > > > >   This can be the default on existing versioned machine types,
> > > > >   just for compatibility.
> > > > >   I suggest making this print warnings for every migration
> > > > >   blocker (like this patch does).
> > > > >   I suggest deprecating this behavior as soon as we can.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - PREFERRED: try to make the VM migratable when possible, but
> > > > >   don't print a warning or error out if migration is blocked.
> > > > >   This seems to be the behavior expected by libvirt today.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - NOT_NEEDED: live migration is not needed, and QEMU is free to
> > > > >   enable features that block live migration or change guest ABI.
> > > > >   We can probably make this the default on machine types that
> > > > >   never supported live migration.
> > > > 
> > > > I suggest you could do this by adding:
> > > >   -warn-none-migratable
> > > >   -no-warn-none-migratable
> > > > 
> > > > and then argue about defaults another time.
> > > 
> > > If we're going to add new args, lets at least future proof our
> > > approach with an extensible option that we can wire into QMP
> > > too later
> > > 
> > >   -migratable  none|preferred|required 
> > > 
> > > and letting us add extra key/value pairs to tune it if desired.
> > 
> > Having said that, we potentially don't need a dedicated arg if we
> > just make  'migratable=none|preferred|required' be a property of
> > the machine type and hook everything off that
> 
> I think my only difficulty with that is that I don't find any of those
> 3 words 'obvious'.

Any suggestions of replacements for those 3 words?

Would the descriptions below be enough to clarify their meaning
in documentation?

- NONE: live migration is not needed, and device or machine code
  is allowed to enable features that block live migration or
  change guest ABI.
  (Not implemented yet)

- PREFERRED: machine and device code should try to make the VM
  migratable when possible, but won't emit a warning or error out
  if migration is blocked.
  (Current default behavior)

- REQUIRED: live migration support is required, and adding a
  migration blocker will be an error.
  (Implemented today by --only-migratable)

-- 
Eduardo




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