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Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] ebpf: Added declaration/initialization routines.


From: Jason Wang
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] ebpf: Added declaration/initialization routines.
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 16:03:39 +0800

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 3:59 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 03:48:18PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:34 PM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 02:54:32PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:33 AM Andrew Melnychenko <andrew@daynix.com> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Who or how the ABI compatibility is preserved between libvirt and Qemu?
> > >
> > > There's no real problem with binary compatibility to solve any more.
> > >
> > > When libvirt first launches a QEMU VM, it will fetch the eBPF programs
> > > it needs from that running QEMU using QMP. WHen it later needs to
> > > enable features that use eBPF, it already has the program data that
> > > matches the running QEMU
> >
> > Ok, then who will validate the eBPF program? I don't think libvirt can
> > trust what is received from Qemu otherwise arbitrary eBPF programs
> > could be executed by Qemu in this way. One example is that when guests
> > escape to Qemu it can modify the rss_bpf__elf_bytes. Though
> > BPF_PROG_TYPE_SOCKET_FILTER gives some of the restrictions, we still
> > need to evaluate side effects of this. Or we need to find other ways
> > like using the binary in libvirt or use rx filter events.
>
> As I mentioned, when libvirt first launches QEMU it will fetch the
> eBPF programs and keep them for later use. At that point the guest
> CPUs haven't started running, and so QEMU it still sufficiently
> trustworthy.

Well, this means the QMP command is safe only before Qemu starts to
run VCPU. I'm not sure this is a good design. Or at least we need to
fail the QMP command if VCPU starts to run.

Thanks

>
> With regards,
> Daniel
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