Re: [RP] Give input from ratpoison input window to script

[Simon White]

01-Jan-03 at 19:56, Shawn Betts (address@hidden) wrote :
> Simon White <address@hidden> writes:
> > 31-Dec-02 at 16:16, Shawn Betts (address@hidden) wrote :
> > > Simon White <address@hidden> writes:
> > > > p.s. If you don't have phoenix0.5 yet, get it. It finally allows you to
> > > > middle click-paste a URL into the window to open the page (this didn't
> > > > work with previous phoenix versions) which is a key feature for browsers
> > > > under Linux IMHO, especially since there's no Windoze equivalent.
> > > 
> > > Let's just keep the chatter about middle clicking and other click-n-drool
> > > to minimum, here. This is a rat free zone, remember? :)
> > 
> > Well, a real ratfree purist could always map a key to the middleclick
> > function in their brower, but really for browsing, the rat is useful.
> > Same as Gimp work and stuff.
> 
> So, really this feature has nothing to do with the mouse. It's a
> function that you can bind any kind of user input event to. That
> doesn't sound so special! :)

You're right.

> I don't doubt the rat is useful. But so are cars, cell phones, TVs,
> and Windows 95. But it doesn't mean we're going go out and *using* them,
> just because they *have* a use!

Well, I use my car when I have to, or when it's more convenient. But
then, I don't live in the "first world" but the "third world" :) so it's
not quite the same distinction here with/without a car.

> > Of course most places where rats can be avoided, they are. But if you
> > are really masochistic enough to tab through to links on a page then
> > fair enough, you win the truly ratfree award.
> 
> Well no one is going to tab through the links. That's just
> *stupid*. Why not use a browser with some decent keyboard
> functionality like w3m-el or phoenix (to a lesser degree)?
> 
> Doesn't phoenix have an interactive search so you don't have to
> point-and-click, instead you look-and-type? Isn't that *why* one would
> use phoenix??

Old habits die hard. I use phoenix because it minimises some mouse use,
but since HTML and hyperlinks were designed for the rat, it's sometimes
quicker to use the rat solely as an input device for surfing on consumer
sites. Otherwise I often use links or wget.

We all surf sometimes with the mouse, surely? Especially when we have
had too much champagne, smoked a bit of something, and just want to
look at pretty pictures of new gadgets for the new year, right?

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