[Savannah-hackers] further comments on dismal as an accepted package

[Frank E. Ritter]

Here are the lastest emails with RMS about dismal, indicating, we 
believe, that dismal is accepted as a package.

Cheers,

Frank

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Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 20:07:30 -0400
To: Paul Visscher <address@hidden>
From: "Frank E. Ritter" <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: getting dismal into http://www.gnu.org/
Cc: "Frank E. Ritter" <address@hidden>, address@hidden,
 address@hidden, address@hidden
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 00:02:53.0210 (UTC) 
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We developed dismal, a spreadsheet for gnu emacs, in emacs lisp and 
the initial indication from RMS was that it would be part of the 
emacs distribution because it is an emacs lisp library.

I think it may be a separate GNU project, but it's clearly tied 
directly to emacs. I append two recent communications that does not 
answer you question to my eyes, but might to yours.  Upon reflection 
I suspect that it is a separate project.

Cheers,

Frank



Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:39:56 -0600 (MDT)
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From: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
CC: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden,
        address@hidden
Subject: Re: dismal copyright forms ready to go, please confirm
Reply-to: address@hidden
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Apr 2001 19:49:02.0310 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[F1739860:01C0CE89]

For now, we should distribute Dismal separately, because getting Emacs 21
ready for release is a lot of work and it is important not to increase
the work.

By the way, have you tried Dismal on the Emacs 21 pretests?
If not, please contact address@hidden to make arrangements to try it.



Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:12:19 -0600 (MDT)
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From: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
CC: address@hidden, address@hidden
Subject: Re: dismal copyright forms ready to go, please confirm
Reply-to: address@hidden
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 07:13:51.0365 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[479C5350:01C0CD57]

    We believe that we just post you the originals via smail, and a URL
    for the latest version via email, and then it's in.

The main question is, "in precisely where"?  We could put it in the
Emacs distribution, or distribute it separately.

I think the latter is better.

At 7:25 PM -0400 11/6/01, Paul Visscher wrote:
> Frank E. Ritter address@hidden said:
> >  We've prepared a page on dismal, a spreadsheet for gnu-emacs.
> >  it is at http://ritter.ist.psu.edu/dismal/dismal.html  It's been in
> >  use for a few years, but I updated it today to more closely match
> >  your requested template.
> >
> >  Copyright has been assigned to the FSF, and dismal has been accepted
> >  into the distribution.
> >
> >  Could you please stick a link up for it, on somewhere like
> >  http://www.gnu.org/software/ ?  that would help us advertise it, and
> >  to cite it as we write about dismal, and how to obtain dismal.
> >
> >  If you would prefer to pull that page, and serve it, that is fine as
> >  well, but would make updates more difficult.  I can see advantages
> >  either way.
>
> We would like to have all GNU software hosted on www.gnu.org. I'm
> unclear about this, though -- is dismal part of emacs or is it a
> separate GNU project that should have it's own website?
>
> If the latter, please go to http://savannah.gnu.org and create an
> account and then register a new project for 'dismal'. Then you can
> maintain your section of www.gnu.org through CVS.
>
> --paulv
>
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:56:09 -0600 (MDT)
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From: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
CC: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
Subject: Re: getting dismal into http://www.gnu.org/
Reply-to: address@hidden
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 17:56:03.0263 (UTC) 
FILETIME=[F23D5CF0:01C0F368]

Dismal should be a separate package, for now.  Later on, after the
Emacs 21 release, we will think about whether and how to integrate it
with Emacs.  There is more than one possible way to do it.
--

Frank  address@hidden
School of Information Sciences and Technology
The Pennsylvania State University
512 Rider
University Park, PA  16801-3857
ph.  (814) 865-4453   fax (814) 865-5604
http://ritter.ist.psu.edu