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Re: [Savannah-hackers] savannah.gnu.org: submission of Simulation of cha


From: Jaime E . Villate
Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers] savannah.gnu.org: submission of Simulation of chaordic systems
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:41:49 +0000
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Hi,
You explained very well the objective of your project, but we also need a
technical explanation: what software will your project depend on? will it run
in a Free Software system such as GNU/Linux?

Unless I'm mistaken, the "Garden with Insight" project that you helped build
only runs in Windows; if that will be the case with simchaordis, it cannot be
hosted here.

Please register your project again explaining those technical details.

Cheers,
Jaime

On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:01:55PM -0500, address@hidden wrote:
> 
> A package was submitted to savannah.gnu.org.
> This mail was sent to address@hidden, address@hidden
> 
> 
> Paul D. Fernhout <address@hidden> described the package as follows:
> License: gpl
> Other License: 
> Package: Simulation of chaordic systems
> System name: simchaordsys
> This package does NOT want to apply for inclusion in the GNU project
> 
> \"Simulation of chaordic systems\" project
> 
> This project is mainly to develop simulations of chaordic organizations, 
> processes, and systems under the GPL license, with \"chaordic\" used as 
> defined by Dee Hock at http://www.chaordic.org and in his book \"Birth of the 
> Chaordic Age\". The focus will be specially on computer simulations to 
> support part of the goal defined here 
>   http://www.chaordic.org/who_hist.html#FourCond
> of: \"Development of visual and physical models of chaordic organizations so 
> that people have something to examine, experiment with, and compare to 
> existing organizations. The models must contain the ethical and spiritual 
> dimensions generally lacking in current models. In addition, computer 
> simulations will need to be created to allow people to quickly see how 
> clarity of purpose and principles allow institutions to self-organize, evolve 
> over decades, and link in new patterns for an enduring constructive society.\"
> 
> One can in some ways view the GPL itself as defining a constitution for a 
> chaordic process of software development.
> 
> Other organizational forms such as hierarchies, meshworks, or mixes of them 
> may also be simulated in part to compare and contrast them with chaordic 
> forms. See for example Manuel de Landa\'s discussion of \"Meshwork vs. 
> Hierarchy\" in organizations in his book \"One Thousand Years of Nonlinear 
> History\". Online, see an example of his writing on  this at:
>   http://www.t0.or.at/delanda/meshwork.htm
> 
> Another motivation is my own thinking on \"many senses of self\" -- that is, 
> one individual may belong in many overlapping organizations (person, family, 
> church, company, club, state, ecology, world) and may have to decide how to 
> allocate their efforts across all these potentially conflicting demands. I 
> think these issues could play an important role in illuminating chaordic 
> decision making in a simulation.
> 
> An example of a previous simulation I helped develop and released under the 
> GPL is: http://www.gardenwithinsight.com
> Some of the general architectural concepts may be reused from there, although 
> probably little code since that codebase is in Delphi, and this codebase will 
> most likely be mainly in Python.
> 
> It does not exist yet but I\'m working on it.



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