Re: [Savannah-hackers] savannah.gnu.org: submission of ISODE (X.500) and PP (X.400) environments

[Loic Dachary]

        Hi,

        The license seems to be compatible with the GNU GPL except for 
one thing : "hold harmless" and requirement not to sue the author. The
former is meaningless to me (but I'm not a lawyer) and the later is
illegal in France (in other countries I can't tell).

        I suggest you ask for advice to address@hidden about these
licenses. You must be prepared to be patient though. As you know there
are many important legal issues currently pending (the patent attack
to samba for instance) and they are extremly busy.

        Please submit your project again when you're confident that the
licenses are compatible with the GNU GPL.

        Thanks for your understanding,

P.S. I used ISODE twelve years ago, thanks for keeping it alive ;-)

address@hidden writes:
 > A package was submitted to savannah.gnu.org.
 > This mail was sent to address@hidden, address@hidden
 > 
 > 
 > Chad Kitching <address@hidden> described the package as follows:
 > License: other
 > Other License: This is the current license the software is licensed under 
 > anyway, and I do not feel that it\'s appropriate to change the license at 
 > this time.  Later, if/when distinctive features are added, the license may 
 > be relicensed under the GPL or LGPL, depending on the nature of the 
 > modifications.  I don\'t believe the licenses below would conflict -- the 
 > restrictions of the licenses should be compatible with the GPL.

 > 

 > ISODE license:

 > 

 > The ISODE is openly available but is NOT in the public domain. You are 
 > allowed and encouraged to take this software and build commercial products. 
 > However, as a condition of use, you are required to ``hold harmless\'\' all 
 > contributors.

 > 

 > Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software and its 
 > documentation for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided 
 > that this notice and the reference to this notice appearing in each software 
 > module be retained unaltered, and that the name of any contributors shall 
 > not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the 
 > software without specific written prior permission. No contributor makes any 
 > representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It 
 > is provided ``as is\'\' without express or implied warranty.

 > 

 > All contributors disclaim all warranties with regard to this software, 
 > including all implied warranties of merchantability and fitness. In no event 
 > shall any contributor be liable for any special, indirect or consequential 
 > damages or any damages whatsoever resulting from loss of use, data or 
 > profits, whether in action of contract, negligence or other tortuous action, 
 > arising out of or in connection with, the use or performance of this 
 > software.

 > 

 > PP license:

 > 

 > PP is not proprietary and can be used for any purpose. The only restriction 
 > is that suing of the authors for any damage the code may cause is not 
 > allowed.
 > Package: ISODE (X.500) and PP (X.400) environments
 > System name: isode
 > This package does NOT want to apply for inclusion in the GNU project
 > 
 > Description:
 > Initial goal of this project is to modernize the ISODE and PP packages to 
 > support modern GNU systems, as well as other modern OS\'s.  The package 
 > implements the ISO standards, and includes ISO protocol stacks over TCP/IP 
 > and X.25, an ASN.1 compiler, an X.500 server, and an X.400 MTA.  The 
 > software is quite archaic and needs bug fixes, etc.  There\'s also some 
 > missing bits, such as the X.400 message store (P7), X.400 P3, and some bits 
 > that are extremely obsolete, such as the SNMP implementation.  X.25 support 
 > for the Linux kernel is also not available.  Both the ISODE and PP packages 
 > are provided under an X11-alike license.  Both are freely distributable, 
 > however, you must \"hold harmless\" the contributors, there are no 
 > waranties, and contributors names cannot be used in advertising materials 
 > without permission.

 > 

 > Unfortunately, it\'s near impossible to find a current download site for the 
 > entire package, including documentation.  However, most of it can be found 
 > at http://ftp.ost.eltele.no/pub/networking/isode/ among other mirrors.
 > 
 > Other Software Required:
 > 
 > 
 > Other Comments:
 > 
 > 
 >