Re: [Savannah-hackers] Savannah Project Approval [CjVgS]

[Michael J. Flickinger]

On Thursday 09 September 2004 05:59 pm, Frédéric Déléchamp wrote:
> Le Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:33:20 -0400,
>
> "Michael J. Flickinger" <address@hidden> prit sa plume et écrivit:
> > On Thursday 26 August 2004 05:01 pm, you wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in Savannah.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 04:33:48 -0400, address@hidden <address@hidden>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > A package was submitted to savannah.nongnu.org
> > > > This mail was sent to address@hidden, address@hidden
> > > >
> > > > Frédéric Déléchamp <address@hidden> described the package as
> > > > follows: License: lgpl
> > > > Other License:
> > > > Package: CjVgS
> > > > System name: cjvgs
> > > > Type: non-GNU
> > > >
> > > > Description:
> > > > Yet Another Graphical Interface for CVS written in Java.
> > > > The purpose of this project is to provide a gui for cvs that will
> > > > be able to
> > >
> > > run in Linux-like OSes.
> > >
> > > > The shape of this gui is close to WinCVS so that people aren't
> > > > lost while
> > >
> > > using it.
> > >
> > > > Right now, there is no source code available, but it is made in
> > > > Java, with
> > >
> > > Ant support, javacvs (javacvs.netbeans.org) and maybe JFreeChart
> > > (for future
> > >
> > > :-).
> > > :
> > > > It is planned to split this project in three parts:
> > > > - the gui itself
> > > > - a library used to build the gui according to a XML description
> > > > - a 'management project', that will take care of the Ant scripts
> > > > used to
> > >
> > > build the project.
> > >
> > > > This splitting may be useful as the last two project may be
> > > > heavily reused.
> > > >
> > > > Other Software Required:
> > > > Java, Swing, Ant, JUnit, javacvs-library
> > > >
> > > > Other Comments:
> > > > How to manage the Swing problem?
> > >
> > > Four of the required packages have licenses incompatible with the
> > > GPL. Swing (Sun Public License)
> > > Ant (Apache Software License, version 2.0)
> > > JUnit (Common Public License)
> > > javacvs-library (Sun Public License)
> >
> > One quick follow up note, Ant is an acceptable dependency, as it's
> > free software and not compiled into the source of your project.  The
> > problem still remains with Swing, javacvs, and JUnit however.
> >
> > Dependencies that are free software and GPL incompatible may be used
> > if they are not linked/included in the source.
> >
> > --
> > Michael J. Flickinger
>
> Thanks, and sorry for late answer ...
>
> I will list dependencies and use of it:
>
> javacvs:      Used for some APIs. I can get rid of these dependencies
>               though...
> Swing:                Used to provide a graphical interface. I can split the 
> project
>               in two parts, one GPL'ed without Swing, another using it and
>               Swing. This will add complexity, but if there is no other way...
>
> more interesting...
> Ant:          Used for building, packaging,... processes, not for any
>               functionalities of the software.
> JUnit:                Used for unit testing of the classes of the project, 
> not for any
>               functionalities of the software.
>
> The Ant case seems to be solved.
>
> Can't really the former project, JUnit, be treated in a similar way?
> Otherwise maybe another splitting... I don't like so much that, it's
> better to keep it simple.
>
> The final packaged software won't be shipped with the tests classes.
> So my project is using JUnit in the source code of unitary tests
> classes, but these will be packaged in another jar file.
>
> It means for me that if one day JUnit becomes no more available,
> it will still be possible to build the software, and everything
> related to it, except tests classes. In this way, am I still breaking
> GPL rules?
>
> Or let's say that unit testing functionality of the project will be
> dependent of JUnit, and may be broken depending on the availability of
> this specific piece of code.
> Or can you advise me a good GPL-compatible alternative to JUnit, please?
> I am lost between Mockry (http://mockry.sourceforge.net/),
> Mock Objects (http://www.mockobjects.com/),
> GrandTestAuto (http://grandtestauto.org/), and others...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Frederic
>
>


> Swing:                Used to provide a graphical interface. I can split the 
> project
>               in two parts, one GPL'ed without Swing, another using it and
>               Swing. This will add complexity, but if there is no other way...

Swing is proprietary software, due to this you project cannot be
hosted on Savannah.

Savannah is willing to provide resources and time to developers
writing Free Software that can be used without the need to ask
permission from a proprietary software vendor.

If, someday, you get free of those dependencies (see
http://www.gnu.org/software/java for more information), do not
hesitate to resubmit your project.

Thank you for your understanding.

Regards,


-- 
Michael J. Flickinger