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Re: [Savannah-help-public] Mis-posting to gnuspeech mail list


From: Sylvain Beucler
Subject: Re: [Savannah-help-public] Mis-posting to gnuspeech mail list
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:18:51 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14)

Hi,

This URL:

 http://www.nabble.com/Removal-of-my-posting-openSubscriber-td12569520.html

is not hosted at Savannah. We do not have any power over it.


I think you need to contact the nabble.com maintainers. Nabble is a
service that mirrors the content of some mailing lists, including,
apparently, the gnuspeech mailing list. We (Savannah) do not have any
link with Nabble.

-- 
Sylvain

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 08:13:23PM -0500, Vikas Shivpuriya wrote:
> Sylvain,
> 
> Thanks so much. Could you please remove my message from the below URL too.
> Please do remove the complete message, that also contains links to personal
> information.
> 
> I appreciate your help in this. Thank you so much again.
> 
> Regards
> 
> -Vikas
> 
> 
> http://www.nabble.com/Removal-of-my-posting-openSubscriber-td12569520.html
> 
> On Dec 11, 2007 3:44 AM, Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > I removed the contact info.
> >
> > What can I add? I could have better used my time :/
> >
> > --
> > Sylvain
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:24:21AM +0100, Sylvain Beucler wrote:
> > > I'll have a look.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sylvain
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 09:33:15AM -0800, David Hill wrote:
> > > > Dear Savannah Hackers,
> > > >
> > > > There is an ongoing problem with one of our posters to the gnuspeech
> > mail
> > > > archive and I do not seem to have any means to resolve the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Basically, Vikas Shivpuriya of the IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
> > posted
> > > > an email to the list with all his personal contact details on June
> > 17th
> > > > 2007 and I accepted it, so it was distributed on June 19th.  Some time
> > > > later he has started asking me to remove this personal information
> > because
> > > > a number of other sites are picking it up and republishing it.
> > > >
> > > > I attach a copy of the email I have just sent to him on the matter.  I
> > > > think it is self-explanatory and puts you in the picture.  I have made
> > it
> > > > clear that we have nothing to do with the other lists he mentions, but
> > it
> > > > will obviously be an ongoing problem if the information remains on the
> > > > gnuspeech mail archive as anyone can pick up the same information from
> > the
> > > > archive.
> > > >
> > > > I would be most grateful if you could remove his personal details
> > (address,
> > > > phone numbers & email address)  from the original posting to the
> > gnuspeech
> > > > list (June 17 2007).
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what can be/has been done.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks.
> > > >
> > > > david
> > > > --------
> > > > David Hill, Prof. Emeritus,
> > > > gnuspeech list administrator
> > > > CS Dept, U. Calgary,
> > > > Calgary, AB T2N 1N4 Canada
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Dear Vikas,
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:50 AM, address@hidden wrote:
> > > >> Hi David Hill,
> > > >> Greetings.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you please remove my contact details from the web posting at link
> > > >> http://www.nabble.com/Hi-t3950183.html
> > > >>
> > > >> You have take similar action on my posting at the link
> > > >>
> > http://www.nabble.com/Removal-of-my-posting-openSubscriber-t4405870.html
> > > >>
> > > >> I do not want to share my professional or contact details on open
> > forum at
> > > >> Nabble.com. Please do the needful as the earliest.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> -Vikas
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Earlier vikas wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Remove personal confidential content from your website site -
> > > >> www.opensubscriber.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have some communication with gnuspeech that is displaying on
> > > >> www.opensubscriber.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/address@hidden/6963441.html
> > > >>
> > > >> This contains all my personal and business information that I do not
> > wish
> > > >> to display on internet google search. You are displaying al the
> > content
> > > >> that I wrote to gnuspeech, on your website without having consent of
> > me or
> > > >> gnuspeech.
> > > >>
> > > >> I request you to remove this webpage from your site as it contains my
> > > >> personal information (name,address,phone nos) that I do not want to
> > > >> publish on your website.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >> -Vikas
> > > >>
> > > >> Reply
> > > >>
> > > >> Forward
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By posting to the gnuspeech site, as a non-member, you are asking for
> > your
> > > > post to be accepted.  When the post is accepted, you normally become a
> > > > member and the email you sent is added to the list archives, and is
> > > > available to all those who visit them.  My role is only to make sure
> > that
> > > > material sent by spammers, or other unsuitable emails sent by
> > non-members
> > > > is kept off the list.
> > > >
> > > > You are asking me to remove the reposted details from both the
> > > > opensubscriber.com and nabble .com sites.
> > > >
> > > > I have *absolutely nothing* to do with the "nabble.com" site or the
> > > > "opensubscriber.com" site, nor are they (AFAIK) anything to do with
> > gnu or
> > > > savannah.   I have done some Googling and found that the nabble.comsite 
> > > > is
> > > > supposedly run by:
> > > >
> > > > Weizhen Lin
> > > > PO Box 99800
> > > > EmeryVille, CA
> > > > 94662
> > > > US
> > > >
> > > > Phone: +1 510 595 2002
> > > > contact [at] myprivateregistration.com
> > > >
> > > > (URL for this information is:
> > > > http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/nabble.com )
> > > >
> > > > The opensubscriber.com site is supposedly run by:
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Hughes
> > > >
> > > > Phone: +61 041 893 0431
> > > > aaron [at] diezmil.com
> > > >
> > > > (URL for this information is:
> > > > http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/opensubscriber.com )
> > > >
> > > > It is those companies that you will have to contact to have that
> > listing of
> > > > your personal details removed from their sites.  As I say, I have
> > nothing
> > > > to do with those sites, and cannot change or dictate what they have
> > posted.
> > > >  I was unaware of either site until you brought them to my attention.
> >  I
> > > > notice that nabble reproduces information from many gnu sites, but
> > that is
> > > > only a small part of what they seem to do.  I have no idea why they
> > would
> > > > do this.
> > > >
> > > > The gnuspeech list site to which you originally posted is a
> > semi-public
> > > > site and it is not possible to stop other people from accessing the
> > site,
> > > > collecting information on the site, and reposting it on their own
> > sites.
> > > > Non-members accessing the gnuspeech site cannot see the senders' email
> > > > addresses, but they *can* see the content of messages.  You put your
> > > > personal detail in the message itself.  As I told the last time you
> > > > contacted me, once you have posted a message it has been put in the
> > public
> > > > domain.  Your mistake was in posting all your personal information on
> > a
> > > > site to which the public have access.  My only role with the gnuspeech
> > site
> > > > is to reject non-legitimate postings (e.g. from spammers).  The gnu
> > > > savannah hackers run the site, not me.  I will bring your request to
> > their
> > > > attention in the hope they can remove the personal information from
> > your
> > > > original posting, something I can find no way to do.
> > > >
> > > > But there is always the problem that other sites may have collected
> > your
> > > > information; and even with the opensubscriber.com and nabble.comsites,
> > > > there will be Google archives, no doubt.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck with your quest to remove your information from the nabble &
> > > > opensubscriber sites.
> > > >
> > > > All good wishes.
> > > >
> > > > david
> > > > --------------
> > > > David Hill
> > > > address@hidden
> > > > http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnuspeech
> >




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