Re: [savannah-help-public] Gnnuspeech release for savannah.gnu.org/projects/gnuspeech

[David Hill]

Dear Assaf,

Many thanks for the helpful comments, suggestions & information. The possible 
use of 'alpha.gnu.org' I had encountered in the GNU documentation. It is an 
intriguing thought, though our package is sufficiently different from the 
normal run of GNU software (and, despite testing, has known omissions more than 
bugs) that I am tempted to go for "quick release" rather than yet more delay. 
I'll see what the others say. We'd like to get the work disseminated and 
encourage others to help complete what is already a useful, practical suite. 
The faults are more to do with possible functional deficiencies and problems 
with documentation, than with coding problems (though TRAcT could do with 
refactoring), and those lacking speech knowledge may find it a challenge to 
comment.

The outline of what to include in the mail-out, and the examples, are 
particularly helpful.

All good wishes.

david

On Sep 20, 2015, at 22:09 00PM, Assaf Gordon wrote:

> Hello David,
> 
> Few suggestions to some of the topics:
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2015, at 22:03, David Hill <address@hidden> wrote:
> [...]
>> I presume I do not have to use "gnupload" or "ncftpput-ftp" scripts, [... ] 
>> and that I can then use basic anonymous ftp to upload the triplet -- the 
>> main, the .sig file and the directive.asc file.
> 
> While I have not tried manual upload myself, it seems there should not be a 
> problem.
> The relevant parts from 'gnupload' point to using host 'ftp-upload.gnu.org' 
> and uploading the files to either '/incoming/ftp' or '/incoming/alpha'.
> See http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/tree/build-aux/gnupload#n312
> Specifically lines 331,336.
> 
>> You don't expect uploaders to use sftp -- right?
> 
> Based on my reading of the script:
> uploading files to  ftp.gnu.org is done with FTP .
> uploading files to 'downloads.savannah.gnu.org' is done with rsync/sftp/scp .
> 
> However, for more accurate information you might want ask at address@hidden .
> 
> ---
> 
> It's worth mentioning 'alpha.gnu.org' : this is a similar server which can be 
> used to hold release candidates for testing and experimentation - worth 
> trying out before publishing a 'final' official release.
> Example, emacs and guix projects publish files there (including some 
> binaries):
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/guix/
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/
> 
> Another useful resource is the 'address@hidden'.
> If you want to get as much testing as possible for a pre-release upload,
> you can upload your files to 'alpha.gnu.org', and send an email to 
> 'platform-testers' asking for help in testing.
> ( see https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-testers ).
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
>> When the release has been accepted, I should send a note out to the mailing 
>> list telling people where to find it, with perhaps some other comments. Any 
>> suggestions as to what to include? And as a matter of interest, where will 
>> people find the release?
> 
> The most common place is the 'address@hidden' mailing list.
> Most GNU maintainers announce new releases there.
> Eg. announcements from Sept-2015:
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2015-08/index.html
> 
> Some maintainers write detailed release messages, especially if this is a 
> major release:
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2015-08/msg00002.html
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2015-08/msg00003.html
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2015-07/msg00001.html
> 
> Others are terse:
>  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2015-05/msg00010.html
> 
> A good outline would be:
> 1. A short description of what the project is
> 2. New feutres, bug fixes, etc.
> 3. Where to download the files from (e.g. ftp.gnu.org's exact URL, after 
> you've successfully uploaded the files and received confirmation)
> 4. GPG signature to verify the download.
> 
> There's a script to automatically generate such a template announcement in 
> gnulib:
>  http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnulib.git/tree/build-aux/announce-gen
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> - assaf
> 
>