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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [Texmacs-dev] Cyrillic encoding problem
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Павел Пантелеев |
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Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [Texmacs-dev] Cyrillic encoding problem |
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Sat, 9 Feb 2008 22:06:43 +0300 |
Hello, Joris!
Thanks for the answer. I've tried different input methods for
Russian, but it works only if I use a kind of transliteration (Translit, Jcuken,
Yawerty). But this kind of input method is strange for people that
have Russian keyboard.
Regards,
Pavel
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:39:54AM +0300, ????? ????????? wrote:
>> Hello, all.
>>
>> I often use TeXmacs to write my papers.
>> I really like it! Many thanks to all developers.
>> But I have some troubles with Cyrillic encoding.
>> As far as I understand TeXmacs represents
>> cyrillic letters as unicode symbols.
>> For example, if I write "Hello!" (in russian "Privet!")
>> TeXmacs saves in tm-file the string:
>> "\<#41F\>\<#440\>\<#438\>\<#432\>\<#435\>\<#442\>!".
>> Maybe Unicode for internal representation is good but
>> it's very inconveniently for many reasons:
> It is strange that things are encoded as Unicode;
> in principle, Russian is encoded using the T2 encoding.
> This must be a change in X. Please try to select some other
> input method for Russian in the preferences
> Edit -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Cyrillic input method
>> 1) TeXmacs Hyphenation tables for russian language use TeX T2
>> encoding (very close to standard cp1251 windows encoding).
>> So it doesn't work.
>>
>> 2) I can't use external editor to edit and view tm-files.
>>
>> 3) I can't use spell-checker in TeXmacs.
>>
>> 4) Import to Latex doesn't work. It writes empty string instead of
>> "Hello!" (in russian cp1251) but it produces valid header:
>> \usepackage[cp1251]{inputenc}
>> \usepackage[russian]{babel}
>> I also can read latex files in cp1251 encoding very well. But if I
>> save them in tm-format they store russian text in TeX T2A
>> encoding instead of unicode!
>>
>>
>> But if replace the sequence:
>> "\<#41F\>\<#440\>\<#438\>\<#432\>\<#435\>\<#442\>!" in tm-file
>> in external editor with "Hello!" (in russian in T2A
>> encoding) and read it by TeXmacs then all is OK. Hyphenation
>> works pretty good. So I deduce that TeXmacs can handle T2A encoding
>> pretty good.
> Yes, things should work using the T2 encoding;
> there must be a problem with the input method.
> Anyway, the Russian support needs to be updated since a while.
> We plan to really migrate to Unicode, but time time time...
> Best wishes, Joris
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