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Re: silent-rules


From: Ralf Corsepius
Subject: Re: silent-rules
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:04:14 +0200
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On 10/06/2009 09:52 PM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote:
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Hello Ralf,

* Ralf Corsepius wrote on Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 05:49:52PM CEST:
a) AM_SILENT_RULES are harmful (I know, you know that I think about
this (mal-) "feature" this way - Working around the issues they are
causing in Fedora packaging is a major nuissance.)

Could you expand on this nuisance a bit more?
I did so several times before.

Anyway, ...

The problem is verifying "correctness of building" packages in batches.

i.e. to monitor/inspect CFLAGS, CPPFLAGS, LDFLAGS etc. in compiler calls etc. for correctness

(NB: A package, which compiles without warning doesn't mean it is being built correctly.)

What work does it cause except for using --disable-silent-rules at
configure time or V=1 at make time?
Exactly this is the problem.

It means automake is pushing around package maintainers to modify their packages to automake's behavioral changes.

As many package maintainers are no autotools' specialists, this is a non-trivial problem.

Ralf





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