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Re: Feature discussion - startup files


From: Rob Foehl
Subject: Re: Feature discussion - startup files
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 23:11:23 -0500 (EST)
User-agent: Alpine 2.20 (LFD 67 2015-01-07)

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015, Chet Ramey wrote:

My position is that a feature like this is not popular enough to be made
the default, and the way to move forward and make something like it
available is to make it a configurable option.  The standard way to do
that is to make it an option in config-top.h, but it could be settable
using configure.

My two cents: bash doesn't need any more initialization files. There are already too many opportunities to screw around with what the shell does at startup that cannot be easily overridden or avoided by the user, and vendors already abuse this with all manner of crap they think desirable.

Another avenue for this sort of behavior, configurable or otherwise, will just result in more of the same -- with the same claims of "no support!" any time anyone tries to change the as-shipped defaults. The end result will be no different from the current situation.

Further, the "do it, regardless" aspect of this proposal is particularly worrisome: the last thing anyone needs is another unconditionally sourced system-wide file in the style of bash_logout. No more, please.

-Rob



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