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Re: Difference of extglob between 5.0.0(1)-release and 4.4.23(1)-release


From: Peng Yu
Subject: Re: Difference of extglob between 5.0.0(1)-release and 4.4.23(1)-release
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:58:12 -0600

> The bash-4.4 code only worked the way you want it by chance. There was a
bug that was fixed in January, 2017, the result of

> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2017-01/msg00018.html

> that uncovered the behavior you're complaining about.

This only explains where the change of behavior for my example comes
from. I assume that this is what you meant and you did not mean to use
that email to justify the change for the example that I showed.

> In a filename context, or a context where a leading `.' must be matched
> explicitly, a pattern must only match a filename that starts with a `.' if
> `.' is the first character in the pattern. A pattern that begins with a
> null extglob pattern (especially one that is defined to perform at least
> one match) followed by a dot, quoted or unquoted, does not fulfill that
> criterion.

I don't follow your explanation. Could you please use my specific
examples and break it down into steps to show what globbing pattern
matching is involved in bash5? And why the logic in bash4 was wrong?

> I wouldn't be so quick to declare this a bug. Other shells (e.g, ksh93,
> mksh, and zsh) that implement extended globbing patterns behave like
> bash-5.0 does.
>
> There is a question of whether or not an extglob pattern that is allowed
> to make zero matches followed by a `.' should succeed, and the existing
> implementations are mixed on that point.

I don't think it is a good idea to introduce such kind of special
cases. If @() should match an empty string, the least surprising
definition is that it should match empty string everywhere. Weight the
surprise that it could introduce, does the benefit of introducing
special cases large enough to allow those special cases?

-- 
Regards,
Peng



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